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Post by beefus on Mar 14, 2022 16:32:15 GMT
After preaching to the little people at the BAFTA's, Dominic Cumberc#nt did say he will be taking in Ukrainian refugees, good on him, happy to be proven wrong but I won't hold my breathe. Still waiting for JK Rowling, Yvette Cooper, Nicola Sturgeon, Bob Geldof etc etc to take in Syrian refugees...how's that going?
Why do celebs feel the need to patronise us plebs, aside from making themselves feel better?
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Post by armstrongracer on Mar 14, 2022 19:43:46 GMT
Still waiting for JK Rowling, Yvette Cooper, Nicola Sturgeon, Bob Geldof etc etc to take in Syrian refugees...
Geez, haven't they been traumatised enough already.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Mar 14, 2022 21:24:54 GMT
So Nato troops are building up on the EU borders in various countries.
Anyone up for a sweepstake on which EU* country Putin attacks first?
I'm torn between one of the weak little ones, you know the recent entries, or if he'll pull a swift one and airstrike a western capital when no-one is expecting it.
Ultimately I suppose it has to be Poland, they kind of have form for being attacked by megalomaniacs and it going all a bit wrong thereafter.
* I'm discounting an attack on the US as even Putin isn't that stupid. I think...
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Mar 14, 2022 22:04:46 GMT
So Nato troops are building up on the EU borders in various countries. Anyone up for a sweepstake on which EU* country Putin attacks first? I'm torn between one of the weak little ones, you know the recent entries, or if he'll pull a swift one and airstrike a western capital when no-one is expecting it. Ultimately I suppose it has to be Poland, they kind of have form for being attacked by megalomaniacs and it going all a bit wrong thereafter. * I'm discounting an attack on the US as even Putin isn't that stupid. I think... At this stage it seems utterly impossible to second guess Putin. It's not even obvious what his endgame is in Ukraine. It doesn't seem to have gone the way he expected but if he ultimately claims Ukraine as Russian territory and the west stands back and does nothing then we look incredibly weak. Domestically there are a lot of questions to be asked about Soviet influence on UK government, particularly in relation to BlowJob, the Lebedevs and Russian £millions poured into the Tory party. There's strong suggestion that the Lebedevs persuaded BlowJob and Gove to back Brexit and financial donations to the Tories could have helped swing this. As ever the lying tory cunts are giving it "nothing to see here" but it needs investigating as a matter of urgency. |
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Mar 15, 2022 7:09:18 GMT
Maybe I'm a simpleton, but to my eyes the Putin objective is clear. Gain controk of the highly concentrated energy and other mined resources which Russia lost when the USSR broke up. The NATO / EU argument is just convenience.
And the west are being quite simpe too. You can fuck with Ukraine all you like because they're not in our club, but if you send one bullet over the wrong border its world war three. If Putin gets the message he will call it quits once he has control of Ukraine, but that's why I called him a megalomaniac, I think he may actually ignore those facts and get greedy and not stop with Ukraine. And if China joins in we're fucked.
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Mar 15, 2022 12:05:43 GMT
Maybe I'm a simpleton, but to my eyes the Putin objective is clear. Gain controk of the highly concentrated energy and other mined resources which Russia lost when the USSR broke up. The NATO / EU argument is just convenience. And the west are being quite simpe too. You can fuck with Ukraine all you like because they're not in our club, but if you send one bullet over the wrong border its world war three. If Putin gets the message he will call it quits once he has control of Ukraine, but that's why I called him a megalomaniac, I think he may actually ignore those facts and get greedy and not stop with Ukraine. And if China joins in we're fucked. But what does control of Ukraine actually mean? You can't just invade a sovereign nation and claim it. Are the Ukrainians meant to just accept defeat? Will they forget pregnant women and children being murdered? Even after military domination by Russia, there would quite probably be an armed resistance within Ukraine, possibly being supplied with weapons and ammunition by the west. The sanctions on Russia wouldn't end either so their economy could be permanently fucked without assistance from China and there doesn't seem to be any guarantee of that. Putin's a proper cunt, but he's a clever cunt and it looks like he has been planning this for years. But it doesn't look like he was clever enough to have a plan B here. His army looks weak or unwilling and it looks like he has resorted to firing cruise missiles at civilian targets. He is lying to everyone at home about what is really happening including it seems, his army. That doesn't really seem to be a sustainable platform to operate from. |
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Post by beefus on Mar 15, 2022 12:46:00 GMT
It means NATO don't have control of Ukraine, Putin does...like he did when Yanukovych was President.. This has been brewing for the best part of 20 years (more actually), but more-so since 2013, Parliament wanted closer ties to the EU but Putin didn't and he has never recognised the sovereignty of Ukraine and sees NATO expansion as provocative. Now the whole "did NATO agree not to expand" is clouded in mystery and conspiracy, I've not read a definitive account of what was supposedly agreed. Not sure what is going to happen but we really should avoid direct conflict with Russia, what a total mess.
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Post by pantah on Mar 15, 2022 19:02:23 GMT
My reckoning is the least messy outcome would be a Russian military revolt against Putin.
This isn't a war, its a potential massacre and we've got ask the question, do the Russian army have the stomach for it. These aren't brown people from another world. These are brothers and sisters.
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Post by mekon on Mar 15, 2022 23:14:05 GMT
But the Ukrainians are the good guys?  ? |
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Mar 16, 2022 7:37:54 GMT
My reckoning is the least messy outcome would be a Russian military revolt against Putin. This isn't a war, its a potential massacre and we've got ask the question, do the Russian army have the stomach for it. These aren't brown people from another world. These are brothers and sisters. There must be so many plans on how to get Putin into a French tunnel,but I'm not sure that his army will be able to do it on their own. They can't risk a revolt if he might be around to greet them on their return! |
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Post by mekon on Mar 22, 2022 17:45:04 GMT
Zelenskys net worth £600+ million. Not bad. Wonder where all that came from.
I wonder if we'll hear the truth about these American politicians with relatives working for Ukrainian companies now pedo Bidens laptop story isn't going away. Funny how some of Hilary Clinton's biggest foreign donors were from Ukraine. Wonder what's going on.
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Post by beefus on Mar 22, 2022 19:48:51 GMT
This isn’t some beacon of democracy, it’s a young country that’s high upon the corruption scale (9th most corrupt nation in the world in 2017), and if it wasn’t Putin invading we wouldn’t give a shit. There’s no doubt that we (the West) have a lot to answer for here too.
Not sure about £600 million but he’s probably got a few quid.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Mar 22, 2022 20:18:35 GMT
Zelenskys net worth £600+ million. Not bad. Wonder where all that came from. Russian bot on t'internet? No wait, he is worth an estimated near $600m according to www.michigansportszone.com/zelensky-net-worth/In the United States, Zelenskyy has an estimated net worth of $596 million USDYou can contact them at their GMAIL.COM email address  Yeah yeah, but its all over Twitter and websites around the world, all reporting the 'facts' However I reckon ITS FUCKING PROPOGANDA TO TRY AND DISCREDIT THE MAN www.pravda.com.ua/news/2019/05/21/7215629/On the day of the inauguration on May 20, the electronic declaration of the newly elected president for 2018 was published on the NAPC website . Zelensky's fortune amounted to about UAH 37 million.
At the 2018 exchange rate, that was £1,052,095 at the then rate of 1UHR to £0.028435 nazk.gov.ua/uk/The link via the NAPC website (official Ukrainian government website as far as I can make out) is broken, however. Just like a lot of Ukraine at the moment. |
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Apr 21, 2022 18:57:46 GMT
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Post by pantah on Apr 21, 2022 19:10:20 GMT
Did you see the fat cunt in India with a turban on. The word fanny springs to mind. On a serious note he keeps on banging on about how much the UK is helping Ukraine yet off he trots to India, one of the few countries still buying huge amounts of oil and gas from Russian to fund their special operation. |
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