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Post by beefus on Mar 6, 2022 7:04:56 GMT
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Mar 6, 2022 9:11:40 GMT
"While Western media deploys Volodymyr Zelensky’s Jewish heritage to refute accusations of Nazi influence in Ukraine, the president has ceded to neo-Nazi forces and now depends on them as front line fighters."Out of interest, how large is the Ukraine Army? How large is their National Guard (the volunteer units)? How large are Azov? Does Ukraine depend upon them, or ok to have them help? Amoz were part of the force in the Donbas area recapturing it from the Russians in 2014. They sound like an obnoxious group fighting a common enemy, the Russians.
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Post by mekon on Mar 6, 2022 21:38:32 GMT
I want to believe.....the truth is out there
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Post by mekon on Mar 6, 2022 22:07:26 GMT
Apparently the original footage is from a climate change demo.
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Post by beefus on Mar 7, 2022 7:49:22 GMT
"While Western media deploys Volodymyr Zelensky’s Jewish heritage to refute accusations of Nazi influence in Ukraine, the president has ceded to neo-Nazi forces and now depends on them as front line fighters."Out of interest, how large is the Ukraine Army? How large is their National Guard (the volunteer units)? How large are Azov? Does Ukraine depend upon them, or ok to have them help? Amoz were part of the force in the Donbas area recapturing it from the Russians in 2014. They sound like an obnoxious group fighting a common enemy, the Russians. Sounds to me like a highly trained well drilled group of far-right militant "soldiers" with long standing connections to the top of the Ukraine Government, not just a rag-tag bunch of misfits. "In 2018, a bill passed by the United States Congress blocked military aid to Azov on the grounds of its white supremacist ideology"......hey ho, never mind...if we need some white supremacist's to help us when the going gets tough then no worries. Given that the greatest threat to the US is apparently "white supremacist domestic terrorists"....i.e anyone who is a Republican.....I'm surprised how easily we get into bed with extremists. Actually, I'm not surprised at all... |
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Mar 7, 2022 10:20:57 GMT
There were a couple of articles that popped up over the weekend with the intention of undermining or discrediting Valensky. No idea if they are factual or not and it doesn't even matter if they are. The Russian propaganda machine is in top gear and you need to read between the lines of everything.
Tbh, he could have shat on a nun's tits while a midget noshed him off. It doesn't matter a fuck what he has or hasn't done, he's trying to defend his country from being annihilated so now is really not the time.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Mar 7, 2022 11:22:53 GMT
Apparently the original footage is from a climate change demo. Which footage? |
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Mar 7, 2022 11:58:17 GMT
There were a couple of articles that popped up over the weekend with the intention of undermining or discrediting Valensky. No idea if they are factual or not and it doesn't even matter if they are. The Russian propaganda machine is in top gear and you need to read between the lines of everything. Its getting harder to sift out what is the truth these days, from any website. The BBC are reporting what BJ says. On the UK government website there is a report on the spend on foreign media, which I assume also includes funding 'independent' media in Russia to correct the Russian state disinformation, and also throw a bit more shit around as well. It was something like £65m. I cant find it now. You can bet the Russians spend even more that. If they can help fund the Tory party, they will also throw money at 'independent' sites, possibly like that Grayzone one. Their article, oddly, didnt include any numbers. How large is the Ukraine Army? How large is their National Guard (the volunteer units)? How large are Azov? I worked it out as 0.005% of total armed forces including reservist's. On the Azov website on Wiki, a leader said only 20% supported Nazi policies. Presumably the rest just joined to fight the pro-Russian forces in their homeland. Thats if you can trust Wiki. Yet their article would lead the casual reader to believe they are a major part of the Ukrainian Army. Take a look at the URL of the article. Nazi Ukrainian war Russia. Thats a bit strong to say the least and sets the tone, followed up with headlines of Zelensky has given up fighting them, made peace and depends on them for front line fighter. |
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Mar 7, 2022 21:48:16 GMT
I read an interesting article last week on government disinformation (as opposed to wartime propaganda). It was initially a Soviet concept and the idea is that the government claims it's doing something but actually does something completely different. This creates confusion so that the people eventually have no idea what to believe.
BlowJob's government have done this to such an extent that they seem to have confused themselves.
Examples are:
During the pandemic they claimed to be leading the world in Covid response when they had one of the highest global mortality rates.
The leveling up agenda is nothing of the sort and the cost of living is going through the roof for the lower earners while the rich keep getting richer.
Britain is leading the way in the Ukrainian refugee crisis when the criteria to come here is impossibly tight and the home office has sent staff to Calais to turn people back. The UK has taken in FIFTY refugees. FIFTY!!!
The UK claims to be leading the way on sanctions yet has sanctioned a fraction of the oligarchs that Europe has and has given them time to move their assets.
Be honest, when you see Raab or Cleverly or Dorries or any one of the thick cunts being interviewed, do you for one second believe a word they are saying? It's like North fucking Korea. They know they're lying, you know they're lying, they don't give a fuck that you know because they also know that you're thick enough to vote for them again.
This war has been perfect timing for BlowJob. The heat's off of him for breaking lockdown laws and he gets to make little self promoting videos with the military. Meanwhile Europeans fleeing war can go and get fucked.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Mar 8, 2022 7:27:50 GMT
So I see that the EU has declared war on Russia.
Oh, no sorry, I mean that the EU has announced that they are starting the process of admission of Ukrania, Moldovia and Georgia. Same old, same old.
Who'd have thought that Brexit may have been one of the UK's finest military strategies?
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Mar 8, 2022 7:55:28 GMT
Who'd have thought that Brexit may have been one of Russia's finest military strategies? That's better. |
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Mar 8, 2022 16:54:41 GMT
Ozzy Man usually does funny commentary on videos he finds or people send him, about animals fighting like the tortoise v cat battle, or the snake v magpie.
Last week he interviewed some Ukrainians, now he interviewed some Russians. I think its more interesting than many terrestrial TV stations efforts.
They say its the older brainwashed people supporting Putin, and the younger people who dont watch mainstream news who are shocked by this.
14:45 is an important question. How will Putin be stopped?
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Post by armstrongracer on Mar 13, 2022 11:34:41 GMT
Some good takes here. Like the crack about gymn bro's signing up for the insta buzz. War is serious, nasty shit.
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Post by mekon on Mar 13, 2022 13:20:36 GMT
Take a Ukrainian...£350 a month.
£250 a day is the going rate in a hotel. There is a hotel group which has bought loads of shit hotels like The Grand in Scarborough and turned them into refugee lands. Beats the £50 they'd normally get.
Government taking the piss as usual. Hopefully J.K. '76 bedrooms' Rowling and the bike will do their bit first.
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Post by mekon on Mar 14, 2022 15:50:50 GMT
Now the Chinese are unironically demanding to know why the Americans have biolabs in Ukraine and what exactly they are up.
Not bioweapons labs though just biolabs. Obviously America has no history of doing dirty business off shore and never will do. God bless America.
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