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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 19, 2021 19:50:19 GMT
I like teasing the lane assit cars I get as hire cars by seeing how long it takes before it tells me to steer it myself. I should not do that probably, but compared to my car even ABS is a new fangled toy to play with.
Today I went to pick up the car for this week's mega-miles trip up North and got given a fucking Fiat 500 Abarth. My boss thought it was hilarious, but he's not the one who has to drive it 1,000 kms with no cruise control.... Cunt.
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Post by spentcase on Apr 19, 2021 21:13:32 GMT
I like teasing the lane assit cars I get as hire cars by seeing how long it takes before it tells me to steer it myself. I should not do that probably, but compared to my car even ABS is a new fangled toy to play with. Today I went to pick up the car for this week's mega-miles trip up North and got given a fucking Fiat 500 Abarth. My boss thought it was hilarious, but he's not the one who has to drive it 1,000 kms with no cruise control.... Cunt. Let us know what the abarth is like fella. I like the 695 biposto, especially with the optional dog box.
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Post by mekon on Apr 19, 2021 22:02:06 GMT
Pretty sure you turn gay if drive those things. Not that I can talk in a Mini.
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Post by spentcase on Apr 20, 2021 7:20:00 GMT
Not with a dog box, plastic windows and no rear seats you don't, mate.
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Post by mekon on Apr 20, 2021 7:58:09 GMT
I would still avoid listening to Soft Cell in it just in case.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 20, 2021 8:51:20 GMT
Just arrived up North after 400kms non stop in the buzz-box. I guess it could be fun for a short while on some twist roads, the steering, suspension and brakes feel pretty good and up to the job. The engine isn't bad, better than the A3 S Line I had a few months ago. Try any hard acceleration though and the front wheel drive scabbles for grip. But man is it basic with a capital basic. The seats aren't adjustable for angle or height, only sliding adjustment and back rest. Being immitation buckets, the headrest is fixed too. And they are way too high for the type of car it is trying to be.
Worst gripe is that the accelerator pedal has a really weak spring, so just the weight of your foot pushes it to the floor so you have to hold your foot up to avoid constatntly accelerating. I'm going to be walking with a limp for week.
Gearbox is automatic or paddle shift, but it is too slow to change, accelerating hard makes each change a neck jerker.
In short, it might be fun for a day, or two in the countryside, but I'm damn glad its not mine. And yes I think it has altered my chromosone composition.
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Post by pantah on Apr 20, 2021 9:22:56 GMT
I don't want to sound like an old cunt who shuns progress, but self driving cars can fuck right off. I won't even use a car that has lane assist. In fact I don't even use cruise control. I would much rather have a car that is mechanically perfectly built with no electronic/smart aids than a run of the mill one with every gadget going. Oh and I hate people too. Agree with most comments Spender but cruise control for me is the pukka driving aid. Long journeys with your right ankle in an abnormal position pre cruise control meant limping to the bogs at service station stops. I love my cruise control and can now engage in some air drumming to while away journey (fully concentrating on the road at all times i must stress).
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Post by beefus on Apr 20, 2021 9:31:13 GMT
Just arrived up North after 400kms non stop in the buzz-box. I guess it could be fun for a short while on some twist roads, the steering, suspension and brakes feel pretty good and up to the job. The engine isn't bad, better than the A3 S Line I had a few months ago. Try any hard acceleration though and the front wheel drive scabbles for grip. But man is it basic with a capital basic. The seats aren't adjustable for angle or height, only sliding adjustment and back rest. Being immitation buckets, the headrest is fixed too. And they are way too high for the type of car it is trying to be. Worst gripe is that the accelerator pedal has a really weak spring, so just the weight of your foot pushes it to the floor so you have to hold your foot up to avoid constatntly accelerating. I'm going to be walking with a limp for week. Gearbox is automatic or paddle shift, but it is too slow to change, accelerating hard makes each change a neck jerker. In short, it might be fun for a day, or two in the countryside, but I'm damn glad its not mine. And yes I think it has altered my chromosone composition. I hired one a few years back, the seat position was too high and felt like I was driving a van..noisy as fuck too. Like you say great fun zipping around the country but not for distance.
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Post by beefus on Apr 20, 2021 9:36:12 GMT
I don't want to sound like an old cunt who shuns progress, but self driving cars can fuck right off. I won't even use a car that has lane assist. In fact I don't even use cruise control. I would much rather have a car that is mechanically perfectly built with no electronic/smart aids than a run of the mill one with every gadget going. Oh and I hate people too. I love my cruise control and can now engage in some air drumming, checking my Whatsapp and social media accounts (fully concentrating on the road at all times i must stress). Fixed that for you Pants ;-) for the modern day driver that I see regularly!... One stupid b1tch drifted over 2 lanes last week into my lane, I was conscious of her and half expected it, I look over and there she is with mobile in hand doing whatever. Annoys the hell out of me.
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Post by spentcase on Apr 20, 2021 9:55:15 GMT
I don't want to sound like an old cunt who shuns progress, but self driving cars can fuck right off. I won't even use a car that has lane assist. In fact I don't even use cruise control. I would much rather have a car that is mechanically perfectly built with no electronic/smart aids than a run of the mill one with every gadget going. Oh and I hate people too. Agree with most comments Spender but cruise control for me is the pukka driving aid. Long journeys with your right ankle in an abnormal position pre cruise control meant limping to the bogs at service station stops. I love my cruise control and can now engage in some air drumming to while away journey (fully concentrating on the road at all times i must stress). I hear you, Los Panteras, and I fully acknowledge that Cruise Control is legit and not just a trinket like so many other modes, especially in average speed camera areas. I also know that it's me and not the rest of the squad that's out of step on this, but I can't help it. I wear my motorway services hobble with pride.
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Post by mekon on Apr 20, 2021 10:02:02 GMT
Pretty sure Spentcase can do London to Newcastle in 3 hours anyway in a Gumball fashion.
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Post by pantah on Apr 20, 2021 10:07:40 GMT
Agree with most comments Spender but cruise control for me is the pukka driving aid. Long journeys with your right ankle in an abnormal position pre cruise control meant limping to the bogs at service station stops. I love my cruise control and can now engage in some air drumming to while away journey (fully concentrating on the road at all times i must stress). I hear you, Los Panteras, and I fully acknowledge that Cruise Control is legit and not just a trinket like so many other modes, especially in average speed camera areas. I also know that it's me and not the rest of the squad that's out of step on this, but I can't help it. I wear my motorway services hobble with pride. I tittered at that Spendthrift 😊 I remember our old race van Merc 508, our cruise control was a fuck off slab of concrete to maintain the flat out speed of 61 mph and power steering was a massive steering wheel for maximum leverage. It was a work out doing a 3 point turn in that fucker.
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Post by mekon on Apr 20, 2021 10:27:35 GMT
I got into driving just as the beasts of the road left the earth. My old man had a Passat with no power steering and a clutch that could destroy quads. My mother also had a Polo that while easier to handle, had no fucking servo on the brakes. Scary shit. Kids these days don't know they're born. Tbh I fucking hated that Passat, it was physically draining and not the best thing for a learner to be out in.
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Post by no66 on Apr 20, 2021 11:47:50 GMT
Statisacly selv driving will be safer than us balding ayaton senna wanabees and pretty much anyone behind the wheel. The problem atm is the transisional peroid. Just enough aids and distractions, but no good enough for real world traffic problems.
The thing the scares mes is hacking of these cars. Elon has has some seminars and asking hackers to try and fool the systems. A drone with a projector showing lanes going off the road and the car went there. Electronic billboards managing to send code to the lidar and on to the computer to controll the car.
Anyway, would be good to live another 50-70 years and tell kids "In my day, we drove and contolled the car" "Even filled it up with highly flamable liquid to produce the explotions inside a block of aluminium"
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Post by mekon on Apr 20, 2021 12:02:08 GMT
I don't think the next gen of kids can tear their face away from phones for long enough to be into driving.
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