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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 16, 2021 20:56:04 GMT
It started with several people telling me I was playing with fire going on track with standard 16 year old rubber brake hoses. Fair point, so I ordered up some Goodridge replacements, but then decided that swapping the hoses without rebuilding the calipers while there was no fluid in there was stupid given that they've probaby not been done in 80,000 kms, so I bought the seal sets which arrived this week.
Going to set to this weekend stripping the calpiers for a deep clean. But how? Anyone got any tips on how to get the calipers, especially the grooves for the seals really really clean? (I've stupidly spent an effing fortune on genuine Suzuki seal kits so this needs to turn out perfect).
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Post by mekon on Apr 16, 2021 22:02:43 GMT
When I was watching rebuild videos of the 390 brakes it seems Carb cleaner was the go to thing to blast out nooks and crannies. I guess just be careful levering out old seals.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 17, 2021 6:42:36 GMT
I tried to persuade Mrs Clipper to go out for the day, leaving the way clear to put them in the dishwasher, but I don't think its gonna happen.
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Post by mekon on Apr 19, 2021 6:28:42 GMT
How is the dishwasher? Are your calipers clean?
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Post by Droog on Apr 19, 2021 17:56:27 GMT
I'd avoid the dishwasher where brake calipers are concerned. I did the little aprilia calipers in the dishwasher and even though they came out clean, after a few weeks they would be covered in a white powdery substance. I first thought it was something to do with the dishwasher detergent or the salt. But even though I took them back off the bike and scrubbed them with brake cleaner, they kept getting that white powder reappear on the surface for ages after. I eventually got rid of it by stripping the calipers back down and soaking them in a tub of WD40 for a week or so before rebuilding them.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 19, 2021 19:44:55 GMT
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Post by Droog on Apr 19, 2021 19:52:15 GMT
Never used them myself but they look ok to me. Mind you, they can sometimes take a lot of persuading to come out. Sometimes they practically twist out though using just your hands. I've always used compressed air. The pistons are very easy to damaged, so avoid any pliers or similar tools.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 19, 2021 20:33:54 GMT
I've got to say that I feel pretty privileged. Its an 80,000 km bike which I've ridden year round including -5ºC commutes and the pistons and calipers look like a sub 10,000 miler in the UK. So I am hoping they'll pop out by hand realatively easily, they all moved out under hydraulics with the pads out, but some more than others, as always...
If I buy the pliers, I won't need them, if I dont.... you know the score.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 22, 2021 12:56:39 GMT
Bingo.
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Apr 23, 2021 17:26:40 GMT
I'm quite a hamfisted cunt and any time I've fucked about with calipers they've never been the same again. Buy a set from a reputable breaker was the best solution I've found.
Having said that, I've got a sticking piston on the 'Blade. I keep cleaning it and it's fine for a while but it always ends up sticking again. I haven't had it fully out and it does look a bit chewed at the end as if some cunt's removed it with mole grips. Bike only had 9k on the clock when I bought it. Fuck all reason for any cunt to have been tearing pistons out of it.
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Post by armstrongracer on Apr 23, 2021 17:50:27 GMT
The reason they stick is the bit in the breeze gets corrosion or just surface crud. If yer getting the pistons out anyway clean em up with very fine wet n dry to stop em sticking.
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Apr 23, 2021 19:20:47 GMT
The reason they stick is the bit in the breeze gets corrosion or just surface crud. If yer getting the pistons out anyway clean em up with very fine wet n dry to stop em sticking. Don't the pistons have a coating?
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 23, 2021 21:19:34 GMT
I got mine all out today. Pumping when still attached to the hydraulics last week had made it clear that at least one piston in each caliper would resist. I tried a bit of extra pneumatic pumping with a foot pump bodged into the banjo bolt hole today and the free pistons moved, but the resistant ones stayed put, so I split the calipers and tried the circlip plier trick. I started with one of the sticky pistons, but unlike the chap on the video, I was using those cheap circlip pliers with exchangeable heads, and they clearly weren't up to the job, being seemingly made of plasticine. Before destroying the pliers totally, I moved onto the other piston in the same caliper half just to test the theory and that came out OK. So off to the hardware store and a set of fixed jaw circlip pliers later and the job was a good 'un. Well, it wasn't actually as easy and smooth as the video made it look and I did damage the wood of my workmate which was gripping the caliper bodies and I did also swear a bit. What did surprise me was that the pistons were not steel as all other pistons I have ever encountered have been, they are some sort of alloy and indeed have a coating like teflon or similar on the "outside". I cleaned them using brake cleaner (Lidl special, seems OK considering the price) and a scourer and they came up really nice easily OK to be resused. The calipers needed a good scrub, but all looks good and scraping the seal grooves with a short bit of bamboo kebab skewer seems to have got all the crustiness out ready for the new seals to go in tomorrow without damaging the inner walls of the piston wells. Going to try to get up early tomorrow to get on with it! Got my next trackday on 9th May but I do really need the bke to go to work when I go to the local office.
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Apr 23, 2021 22:03:30 GMT
I got mine all... pumping...into the banjo...hole today. I started...sticky...Before destroying the...jaw...and the...wood of my workmate...with a...bit of bamboo...crustiness Fnarr
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Post by spentcase on Apr 23, 2021 22:14:14 GMT
clean em up with Crisp n Dry to stop em sticking. I should imagine it would fella.
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