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Post by rusty on May 9, 2017 23:13:55 GMT
Not too much to say about this one. Performances like this from Pedrosa are always as baffling as they are impressive. Why can't he click like this more often? Rossi admitted they got the setup all wrong, but Vinales was nowhere near the front either, and Zarco was flattered by his tire gamble. So can we finally stop with the bullshit about the Honda being inferior? I mean, when you see that schmuck Crutchslow's face on TV as often as we have lately, you know the Honda is a pretty damn good package. The most worrying aspect is that the Michelins still seem to be a mystery from week to week, and nobody wants to see the championship decided by tyres (or tires). Looks like testing didn't go any better today .... I would like to see Rossi get another title before he retires, I'm sure he can do it, but it's certainly not getting any easier..
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Post by beefus on May 10, 2017 7:38:20 GMT
Not too much to say about this one. Performances like this from Pedrosa are always as baffling as they are impressive. Why can't he click like this more often? Rossi admitted they got the setup all wrong, but Vinales was nowhere near the front either, and Zarco was flattered by his tire gamble. So can we finally stop with the bullshit about the Honda being inferior? I mean, when you see that schmuck Crutchslow's face on TV as often as we have lately, you know the Honda is a pretty damn good package. The most worrying aspect is that the Michelins still seem to be a mystery from week to week, and nobody wants to see the championship decided by tyres (or tires). Vinales topped the post-race test on Monday so its not all bad for Yamaha. Yep, Zarco was just lucky really...he got that 4th by default. I mean its not like he had to make any moves or pass any other riders....just lucky. Change the bike colours to blue, stick a number 46 on it and you'd be telling us all how brilliant the ride was because the rider managed his tyres better and "rode around" any issues better than anyone else.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 8:29:30 GMT
Lorenzo in 10th - Lorenzo's real position ,previously flattered by being on the best bike.
Rossi in 10th - Setup problems, everyone else benefitted from lucky tyre gambles.
Such is the mind of the Rossi fan.
I bet Rossi doesn't win a single race this year.
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Post by neilf on May 10, 2017 8:46:48 GMT
Not too much to say about this one. Actually, there is a lot to say about this one... see previous posts in this thread prior to yours. Performances like this from Pedrosa are always as baffling as they are impressive. Why can't he click like this more often? Couldn't agree more; it appears as though he has graduated from the Cadalora School of 500cc/MotoGP Motorcycle Racing with a 1st Degree in Flash in the Pan Results And When To Pull Them Out Of A Hat! ... and Zarco was flattered by his tire gamble. So, what's your point? Did you miss the first couple of laps? How, as a racing fan, could you not be impressed by the way Zarco carved through to 2nd? He put in in some hard but fair passes and refused to back down. So what if he and his team made a good tyre choice! He used them to finish 4th on a satellite bike behind 2 MotoGP World Champions, 3 factory bikes, as well as in front of both factory Yamahas; how is that not impressive? So can we finally stop with the bullshit about the Honda being inferior? I mean, when you see that schmuck Crutchslow's face on TV as often as we have lately, you know the Honda is a pretty damn good package. It's called development! It has been widely accepted that the Honda is a relatively inferior bike compared to the Yamaha for the past couple of seasons, with Marquez being the only rider to consistently challenge for wins and the championship. Riders like Crutchlow, Miller and Pedrosa can produce the results when the planets align; the former through sheer guts and doggedness, Miller in adverse weather conditions and the latter when everything is just so. Also, why do you insist on calling Cal "Crutchslow", when he obviously isn't slow? He won 2 races last year, the same as your beloved Valentinslow... did you see what I did there? I'm clever me! The most worrying aspect is that the Michelins still seem to be a mystery from week to week, and nobody wants to see the championship decided by tyres ( or tires). And finally, it is never OK to use the American English spelling of "tires" unless you are from North America! Why is English listed as "English (United Kingdom)" in Microsoft programs (sorry, I should call them "Applications" these days!), when it is the original version of the language?
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Post by neilf on May 10, 2017 9:01:32 GMT
Lorenzo in 10th - Lorenzo's real position ,previously flattered by being on the best bike. Rossi in 10th - Setup problems, everyone else benefitted from lucky tyre gambles. Such is the mind of the Rossi fan. I bet Rossi doesn't win a single race this year. Imagine if he was able to pull that off without winning a race!
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Post by nippon on May 10, 2017 10:39:45 GMT
hoppur. the honda wasn't a good bike last year. that was widely accepted. nobody has said the honda is poor this year. also, if you're of the opinion there wasn't much to discuss, we can talk about lorenzo and his podium. he only needs one more by the end of the 2018 season and he's equalled rossi's record on the red bike.
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Post by beefus on May 10, 2017 10:53:05 GMT
Lorenzo in 10th - Lorenzo's real position ,previously flattered by being on the best bike. Rossi in 10th - Setup problems, everyone else benefitted from lucky tyre gambles. Such is the mind of the Rossi fan. I bet Rossi doesn't win a single race this year. Imagine if he was able to pull that off without winning a race! Then he wouldn't be a worthy Champion, naturally.
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Post by beefus on May 10, 2017 11:00:39 GMT
hoppur. the honda wasn't a good bike last year. that was widely accepted. nobody has said the honda is poor this year. also, if you're of the opinion there wasn't much to discuss, we can talk about lorenzo and his podium. he only needs one more by the end of the 2018 season and he's equalled rossi's record on the red bike. Yep.....and Honda are using a new big-bang V4 config, they (the riders and team) are adapting to it and the electronics.... Its widely accepted that the Yamaha is and has been the "easiest" bike to ride fast for a long time..regardless of MM's multiple WC's...but he's a bit special.
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Post by bella on May 10, 2017 13:24:04 GMT
hoppur. the honda wasn't a good bike last year. that was widely accepted. nobody has said the honda is poor this year. also, if you're of the opinion there wasn't much to discuss, we can talk about lorenzo and his podium. he only needs one more by the end of the 2018 season and he's equalled rossi's record on the red bike. Lorenzo has also matched Rossi for taking four races to make the podium, i think he needs another one in the next four to surpass Rossi for the two podiums in the first season on the red bike. Edited to add that I was wrong, one 3rd place in the first season, two 2nds in his second season.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on May 10, 2017 16:05:20 GMT
hoppur. the honda wasn't a good bike last year. that was widely accepted. nobody has said the honda is poor this year. also, if you're of the opinion there wasn't much to discuss, we can talk about lorenzo and his podium. he only needs one more by the end of the 2018 season and he's equalled rossi's record on the red bike. I agree, nobody has said the Honda is poor this year and I think after all the development since the standard ECU came in they finally got to grips with it around Motegi last year. Check the thread on the old board. The idiot was wanting to put the 'Honda is poor myth to bed' then when everyone thought the bike had improved. motobanzai.myfreeforum.org/ftopic3218-0-asc-60.phpNice stat about podiums on the Ducati.
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Post by bella on May 10, 2017 17:36:02 GMT
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Post by bella on May 12, 2017 6:29:12 GMT
Speaking of Pedrosa maybe he needs exceptional circumstances for his odd wins here and there, I remember Hailwood saying that Bill Ivy was perfect for 125s but too small and light for the more powerful 250 V4 Yamaha and suffered wheel spin everywhere.
And Rossi.....well that was a poor performance, the most experienced bloke on the best bike well beaten by his new team mate who had a duff tyre and also had his arse whipped by class rookie Zarco on an old M1.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on May 12, 2017 10:31:49 GMT
Speaking of Pedrosa maybe he needs exceptional circumstances for his odd wins here and there, I remember Hailwood saying that Bill Ivy was perfect for 125s but too small and light for the more powerful 250 V4 Yamaha and suffered wheel spin everywhere. Pedrosa has 30 MotoGP wins at 17 different circuits: China, Donington, Sachsenring (4), Valencia (3), Jerez (3), Catalunya, Laguna Seca, Mugello, Indianapolis (2), Misano (2), Estoril, Motegi (3), Brno (2), Aragon, Sepang (3) and Le Mans. So he has never won at Istanbul,Qatar, Assen, Phillip Island, Silverstone, CotA, Spielburg. He has won at the tighter twisty circuits, but not all of the faster open circuits, although Barcelona, Mugello & Brno are faster and open.
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Post by beefus on May 12, 2017 12:58:14 GMT
Speaking of Pedrosa maybe he needs exceptional circumstances for his odd wins here and there, I remember Hailwood saying that Bill Ivy was perfect for 125s but too small and light for the more powerful 250 V4 Yamaha and suffered wheel spin everywhere. Pedrosa has 30 MotoGP wins at 17 different circuits: China, Donington, Sachsenring (4), Valencia (3), Jerez (3), Catalunya, Laguna Seca, Mugello, Indianapolis (2), Misano (2), Estoril, Motegi (3), Brno (2), Aragon, Sepang (3) and Le Mans. So he has never won at Istanbul,Qatar, Assen, Phillip Island, Silverstone, CotA, Spielburg. He has won at the tighter twisty circuits, but not all of the faster open circuits, although Barcelona, Mugello & Brno are faster and open. 30 wins is impressive by any top riders standards, although MM has the same number after 4 seasons at the top level....DP is in his 12th season which puts it into perspective. Still, I really hope he can do consistently well this season and keep the pressure on VR, MM, MV.....
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Post by bella on May 12, 2017 13:39:54 GMT
30 wins is some total mind, its easy to forget just how long he's been at it. Maybe I should edit my post to win and a bit here and there, then the 30 into 12 will go a bit better.
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