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Post by mekon on Feb 3, 2022 11:48:38 GMT
I was watching a Lawson interview and he said back in the day you needed a year on a 500 to start to understand how to go really fast but these days you cpuld understand a modern machine in a session.
A bit extreme or just the way it is with electronics? I suppose the shit tyres back then didn't help , or maybe it was the later grippier tyres that gave the 500s an even narrower operating band.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Feb 3, 2022 13:53:30 GMT
How many "modern" MotoGP bikes has Mr. Lawson ridden?
I haven't seen the intervierw (linky linky?) but it does sound a bit "they don't make 'em like they used to".
Having said that, seeing the photos of Binner Binder dragging his elbow at Sepang on the M1 does seem to indicate that adaptation to a reasonable level is quite quick if you have any kind of ability.
When was the last time anyone failed to qualify for a MotoGP race, that French dude on the Avintia?
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Post by neilf on Feb 3, 2022 17:37:32 GMT
I imagine that Lawson is going off his 4-stroke experience e.g. Suzuka 8hr, where these bikes were so much easier to ride than a 2-stroke.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 4, 2022 10:46:57 GMT
1st official test tomorrow. Then its off to test at the new circuit at Mandalika Indonesia the week after, 11th Feb. 1st Mandalika race round is 18th March.
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Post by beefus on Feb 4, 2022 11:48:44 GMT
You have to look at riding styles too, these young guys are used to really hanging off, elbow dragging etc from the junior classes, the style is totally different than the Lawsons era and even from early Rossi MotoGP era, he himself said he had to change his riding style in order to adapt. The old 2T's never got to 65 degree lean angle, nor the rides to the low body positions we see now.
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Post by neilf on Feb 4, 2022 13:30:55 GMT
You have to look at riding styles too, these young guys are used to really hanging off, elbow dragging etc from the junior classes, the style is totally different than the Lawsons era and even from early Rossi MotoGP era, he himself said he had to change his riding style in order to adapt. The old 2T's never got to 65 degree lean angle, nor the rides to the low body positions we see now. Apart from Ruggia  ;  |
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Post by mekon on Feb 4, 2022 13:50:23 GMT
Dude reminds me of Vinales.
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Post by beefus on Feb 4, 2022 14:03:48 GMT
Dude reminds me of Vinales.  Different level now though. |
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Post by bella on Feb 4, 2022 18:00:12 GMT
I've seen some Lawson interviews where he's mentioned stuff like this a few times, he's a bit of a one for overstating how things were so bad in his day and the modern boys have it too easy, and contradicts himself a few times with it, in reality no matter how good brakes and tyres were, those top guys would take them to the limit then want more, so he was correct in saying only a few get to the limits but its six and two threes against the modern boys with all their gizmo's meaning maybe the bikes are easier to ride but then you have loads more running at the front.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Feb 4, 2022 20:47:36 GMT
I obviously can't compare myself to these guys at all, but I can assure that I have tried so hard to develop a "modern" riding style in my recent return to the track and its damn hard to adapt to that upper body shift style!
Looking back, Ruggia really was a decade ahead of his time!
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Post by mekon on Feb 8, 2022 11:56:57 GMT
The 250s sort of had the more current style back in the 90s ![]()  |
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