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Post by Droog on Jul 4, 2021 10:58:55 GMT
I'm more convinced than ever, that Redding and Ducati are going to fall out and part ways. I still see Redding going to Honda in 2022.
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Jul 4, 2021 11:16:53 GMT
Otis was preventing me falling adrift at the bottom of the fantasy league table. I've been happier.
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Post by mekon on Jul 4, 2021 12:27:27 GMT
What was the thinking with full wets? Track didn't look wet. Bizarre. He should have come in and gambled on slicks.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Jul 4, 2021 15:48:45 GMT
Someone (Whitham?) said they had rung a mate down the road and they said it was raining. But that shower didnt hit the track.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Jul 4, 2021 15:52:15 GMT
Another good ride from Toprak, pushed Rea who crashed which you dont see often. Gerloff 2nd. Will Locatelli and Gerloff swap rides or are they going to stay put.
New BMW getting podiums, the mighty Honda arent.
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Post by Droog on Jul 4, 2021 16:36:08 GMT
Locatelli will get the same treatment that befell Caricasulo. I know it was different teams but the Crescent and GRT setups are intertwined under the Yamaha Europe banner. Only thing that can save Locatelli is a few podiums before years end. I'm starting to think Bautista is done as a rider. Honda need to bring in some faster riders if they want to win.
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Post by mekon on Jul 4, 2021 17:17:30 GMT
The conundrum of WSB. The Kwak is a winner, so is the Ducati and the Yamaha. I think the BMW could potentially win but not with Sykes and the overrated VDM. Same with the Honda at some point if it really does have 265hp. Riders aren't up to it.
Who goes where though to make those bikes winners? Rea will see his career out in green, Gerloff and Toprak will probably stsy with Yam. Lowes isn't fast enough, and Rinaldi is a hot and cold guy.
Any motogp rejects kicking about? Petrucci?
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Jul 5, 2021 5:09:19 GMT
You'd think that Bautista could manage 256 bhp? I think the HRC problem is elsewhere, more electronics related maybe but I'm no expert.
There is the theory that Bautista is on his retirement fund ride, but that surprises me TBH. At least you'd expect him to want a decent CV for Moto America.
Could it be more that HRC have the wrong riders for developing a new Superbike?
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Jul 5, 2021 8:59:05 GMT
Could it be more that HRC have the wrong riders for developing a new Superbike? And MotoGP. How can they make a MotoGP bike so difficult to ride. Over aggressive power delivery? Mekon noticed Bautista by having the front wheel off the ground accelerating whilst Gerloff powered away. |
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Jul 5, 2021 9:03:56 GMT
Could it be more that HRC have the wrong riders for developing a new Superbike? And MotoGP. How can they make a MotoGP bike so difficult to ride. Over aggressive power delivery? Mekon noticed Bautista by having the front wheel off the ground accelerating whilst Gerloff powered away. In MotoGP, with Marc they have a rider who can sort out a pig delivered in November to make it rideable, by him at least, to 1st place on a regular basis by March (when his bones are all in one piece that is). Sadly neither Bautista nor Haslam seem to be able to do similar in WSB, which is what HRC need. But could any of the current WSB riders do that? Could Scott? I am not convinced. |
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Post by armstrongracer on Jul 5, 2021 12:48:27 GMT
Its a perennial problem with the Japanese factory teams, salary-men test riders who won't criticise so it's almost too late by the time the bike gets to the race team. Especially now with cost savings, testing & development caps. Who has improved most in the last couple of seasons? KTM, Yamaha, Suzuki. Whats the common denominator here? Testing driven by established GP riders who aren't afraid to tell it as it is. Honda have always been really bad at throwing unrideable bikes over the wall to the factory riders. Thankfully they had genius riders like MM who could ride around the issues or strong characters like Dohan, who'd tell the factory to stuff the new bike and stick with what he's happy with, even if it was old in management's eyes and due for the crusher.
Honda Superbike looks like it was developed by engineers with a lot of F1 background. Honda have always had a hard-on for efficiency and low internal friction. The superbike looks like it spins up too fast & has very low cranshaft inertia. You need drivability and mechanical grip, its no use having 265hp if the electronics just rob 40hp trying to stop it from looping.
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Post by mekon on Jul 5, 2021 13:27:56 GMT
I wonder if WSB would be better if tyres were open choice? Back to tyre wars.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Jul 5, 2021 15:40:49 GMT
I wonder if WSB would be better if tyres were open choice? Back to tyre wars. FFS Mekon, always the radical of the group. Next you'lll be saying that Moto 2 should be open to all motorcycle manufacturers... |
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Jul 5, 2021 15:44:19 GMT
I wonder if WSB would be better if tyres were open choice? Back to tyre wars. FFS Mekon, always the radical of the group. Next you'lll be saying that Moto 2 should be open to all motorcycle manufacturers... Give Rossi his special overnight tyres. |
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Post by mekon on Jul 5, 2021 18:18:43 GMT
They've fucked themselves with having triumph and a 675, you'd have to allow silly shit like 750cc vtwins. Then Aprilia, kawasaki and yamaha would turn up with 700cc parallel twins with unobtainium parts to make it more equal.
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