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Post by paulg on Aug 9, 2019 14:12:00 GMT
I wish the yanks were on this forum still as Id love to hear them try and explain why they still need automatic weapons!
29 fucking dead last weekend...The country is nuts.
Fuck going there on holiday...Not because I think Ill get shot, but because Im not giving those idiots my hard earned tourist cash
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Post by Pick on Aug 9, 2019 16:04:07 GMT
Proud Texan here, and no fucking civilian should have ever been able to purchase an assault rifle. I have no problem with standard hunting rifles, shotguns or handguns, but an AR would never be used for hunting. The only thing they are good for is killing people. Another issue is the high capacity magazines. The shooter in Dayton, Ohio had a modified drum magazine that apparently held 100 rounds of ammo. Luckily the cops killed him within 30 seconds, or that would have been so much worse (I think he still managed to shoot 40 rounds in those 30 seconds). Somehow the NRA (National Rifle Association) has become so powerful and have so many politicians under their thumb, that nothing will ever change. As with every mass shooting, there will be a few weeks of outrage, only to die down yet again. It also doesn't help that our stupid fucking orange president is stoking the hate in his nutjob followers. People are so freaked out now that when a motorcycle backfired in Times Square a few days ago, everyone ran for cover thinking it was gun shots. Schools also go through drills to prepare for mass shooters. We've had more mass shootings this year than we've had days. Just fucking insane that we live like this.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Aug 9, 2019 18:54:37 GMT
250+ mass shootings www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49292111Trump must be to blame for some of those the way he has spoken. Same for Brexit causing more racial hatred over here. According to someone I unfortunately know, Brexit is the start of kicking all the Muslims out.
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Aug 9, 2019 19:44:15 GMT
Its terribly sad on every level. Thanks Pick for the honesty. Given the number of 'accidental' toddler deaths, might you be prepared to review your handgun stance? I'm also not convinced that civvies need sniper rifles either. That Ohio incident was 'lucky' that plod were so close. Another 10 seconds could have added plenty to the list.
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Post by paulg on Aug 10, 2019 8:50:06 GMT
As above Pick ^. Thanks for your input and apologies for calling all of you idiots...You're clearly not.
I wouldnt be comfortable with handguns being legal either...The amount of rounds you can fire off with one of them is startling, not to mention the super fast reload time. I can understand shot guns and rifles being used for hunting/vermin control but thats it for me
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Post by mekon on Aug 10, 2019 12:37:12 GMT
First gun problem is not enough checks and balances. Too many mentally ill people able to get hold of them.
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Post by pantah on Aug 10, 2019 13:49:06 GMT
US President Donald Trump says "serious discussions" are taking place between congressional leaders on "meaningful" background checks for gun owners following two mass shootings.
On Twitter, Mr Trump also said he had spoken to the gun lobby group National Rifle Association (NRA) so their views can be "represented and respected".
The NRA opposes extensive checks.
Democrats want the Senate to be recalled from recess to enact immediate legislation on gun control.
Mr Trump - who did not specify which steps he would support - weighed in after days of disagreement on how the US should respond to its latest mass shootings.
As he prepared to leave the White House on a trip to New York, he said: "Frankly, we need intelligent background checks. This isn't a question of NRA, Republican, or Democrat."
But he singled out mental health issues, saying: "We don't want people who are mentally ill, people who are sick - we don't want them having guns."
No shit Sherlock, that would rule the orange fucktard from owning guns.
IMO it will never change. It was suggested that the answer to gunmen shooting school pupils was to arm the teachers. That is the level of politics we are at.
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Post by Pick on Aug 12, 2019 13:59:34 GMT
Its terribly sad on every level. Thanks Pick for the honesty. Given the number of 'accidental' toddler deaths, might you be prepared to review your handgun stance? I'm also not convinced that civvies need sniper rifles either. That Ohio incident was 'lucky' that plod were so close. Another 10 seconds could have added plenty to the list. As incredibly unfortunate as those accidental toddler/kid deaths with handguns are, the blame has to be on the parents/adults for not securing those guns properly. As for background checks on gun sales here, unless someone has had previous trouble with the law, or documented mental health treatment, there would be no red flags to prohibit the sale. If what I've heard about these last two shooters is correct, additional background checks wouldn't have stopped either of them from purchasing their assault rifles. I hadn't realized this until these last shootings, but apparently there was a ban on assault rifle sales from 1994 to 2004, but our bright congress decided to let that ban lapse (I would assume with pressure from the NRA). Now look where we are now.
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Post by Pick on Aug 12, 2019 14:04:59 GMT
I wish the yanks were on this forum still as Id love to hear them try and explain why they still need automatic weapons!
29 fucking dead last weekend...The country is nuts.
Fuck going there on holiday...Not because I think Ill get shot, but because Im not giving those idiots my hard earned tourist cash
I read that Japan and a few other countries actually issued travel advisories about traveling to the US because of random mass shootings. I don't think that's a bad idea. But of course, the idiot Trump didn't like that and is talking about retaliating against countries for doing that. What a dumb fuck he is.
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Post by mekon on Aug 13, 2019 12:22:02 GMT
Rag on trump all you want but no Democrat in power has done fuck all about it either.
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Post by no66 on Aug 13, 2019 12:41:03 GMT
Rag on trump all you want but no Democrat in power has done fuck all about it either. Obama tried to at least get some checks in place but got stopped by the GOP. This was after Sandy Hook. Doubt if anything will happen, if mowing down 20 toddler is the norm......
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Post by Pick on Aug 14, 2019 19:29:00 GMT
Rag on trump all you want but no Democrat in power has done fuck all about it either. Yep, you're right. I think the last time Democrats controlled the Presidency, House and Senate was the first few years of Obama's first term. Of course, back then, we weren't having hundreds of mass shootings every year, so the gun issue wasn't as critical as it is now. When we have split majority parties, nothing gets done. A democratic held House won't pass anything the Republican Senate passes, and vice versa.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Aug 17, 2019 13:32:24 GMT
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