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Post by neilf on Feb 25, 2019 8:57:56 GMT
You would expect the experienced Pirelli riders to be able to manage their tyres a bit better. I imagine that Bautista's team told him exactly what was required and he did just that.
That V4R is a rocket ship and Rea did will to stay with AB for a few laps in the Sprint race... is this purely down to the Desmo system?
Hopefully this is NOT a sign of things to come, but, as the commentary team mentioned, the next two rounds, Thailand and Aragon, involve some huge straights. That bike/rider combo also seems to go well is the corners and is able to find grip... you don't ride around the outside of people at Stoner's without that, confidence and huge gonads.
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Post by pantah on Feb 25, 2019 23:59:31 GMT
Normally if a rider takes 15 seconds from the next guy it would be seen as a bit boring but after 4 years of Rea winning i was over the fucking moon. When it’s a rookie (ok a decent ex world champion) and a brand new bike that is seriously impressive. This season is shaping up to be the best in years with Leon on it, the Yams looking good, Honda supporting again and Toprak looks a prospect too. Quite like the new sprint race too.
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Post by beefus on Feb 26, 2019 12:09:28 GMT
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Post by neilf on Feb 26, 2019 12:25:50 GMT
Kawasaki and Honda have RR and SP2 versions of their bikes respectively, but they are nowhere near the same level/state of tune as the V4R; maybe it's a combination of the Desmo system, engine configuration and excellent electronics, as well as rider, bike set-up and team?
Nice of Rea to mention Tom Sykes!
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Feb 26, 2019 13:05:22 GMT
How can he say that it's not in the Japanese manufacturer's mentality to build homologation specials?
That's exactly what they used to do in the 90s with the 750s; RC-30 / OwO1 anyone?. Honda went all out and built a V twin to compete against Ducati in the past... that they choose not to do it again now is their choice, no-one else's.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 26, 2019 13:21:49 GMT
One of the reasons why it is so expensive is that the road going version is 1105cc and the race bike is a 10000cc homologation special so it fits in with the rules. The Kawasaki is a homologation special so it has an advantage over manufacturers who dont have specials for racing.
Expect some rev limit changes after the 3rd event, but maybe not if the other Ducati riders dont get into the top 5 or so.
2.4.3.1 Balancing various motorcycle concepts a) In order to equalise the performance of different brands of machine rev limits will be individually applied to each brand. b) Each season will begin with the same rev limits as the previous season finished. c) The rev limit will be adjusted according to 2.4.3.2. d) Updated machines with the same basic engine design will continue with the manufacturers previous rev limit. Any new machines entering with a redesigned engine will have their rev limit set by calculation. e) The initial rev limit will be the dynamometer measured rev limit of 3rd & 4th gear averaged, plus 3% or 1100 rpm above the dyno measured max horsepower rpm of a production machine, whichever is lower. f) The limiter in all gears will be analysed to check for anomalies. g) The dyno test will take place during the homologation inspection. (See Part 4.0 Homologation, 1.4.b) h) The Superbike Commission can at any time modify the handicap system to ensure fair competition. 2.4.3.2 Balancing Calculation 1. The FIM/DWO algorithm will be used to balance the performance of the machines relative to one another. 2. The algorithm may include but not be limited to the following signals: a) Lap time relative to all other competitors b) Speed traps c) Number of riders per brand d) Anticipated individual rider performance i) Per track ii) Considering preceding rounds e) Race results f) Laps led g) Overall race time h) Change in balance following any rpm limiter changes i) Bias towards recent results reflecting current performance j) Any concession part updates being applied 3. The rev limit may be updated (according to 2.4.3.2) at the end of every 3rd event provided at least 3 events remain in the season. 4. The rev limit may also be updated at the end of the season. 5. FIM/DWO reserves the right to update the rpm balance at their discretion in the case of an imbalance. 6. “Wet” races (as declared by the Race Director) are not taken in account for the calculation.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Feb 26, 2019 13:27:55 GMT
So, if you take a gun to the gun fight, but the others take a knife, you can expect to have your bullets taken from you... sounds fair...
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Post by mekon on Feb 26, 2019 13:38:43 GMT
Winning has obviously become an entitlement for Rea. He's the one with the gun holding the championship up for last 4 years.
All the spastics on crash.net were saying dumb shit like the ducati wasn't in the spirit of the rules. GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE HERE WITH THAT SHIT! RC30,R45,SP1/2, the just got lazy and relied on Ten Kate to polish later turds. (though bsb efforts had some unobtanium as well) Everything Kawsaki did the RRRRRRRRRRRR at the end Yahama 750 hot versions Ducati always had a version with an extra R or two on the end. Aprilia had a V-twin and then a V4 for one purpose Even Bimota gave it crack with the tramp attacker on board.
Every motorsport entry that's ever won anything is probably a homologation special or rule bender. Look at BTCC when Alfa sold a spoiler kit with the car and put it in the boot as it wasn't road legal to fit.
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Post by spuu on Feb 26, 2019 19:46:47 GMT
To note, Melandri did the double at PI last year on the factory duke and then didnt win another race all year.
But to me the main difference was the rider not the bike. If Chaz was/is up there riding off into the distance then fair enough. Bautista is class. I wonder if the door back to MotoGP stays firmly closed if he did go on and do great things in WSB with Ducati. Its certainly a strange scenario when you are watching the tv and shouting for a Spaniard to stuff it to someone from home turf.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 27, 2019 16:08:12 GMT
At PI they had a test before the race meeting. Next race, free practice consists of 2 * 45 minutes sessions and 1 of 20 minutes, then its into qualifying.
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Post by Droog on Feb 28, 2019 4:08:22 GMT
Rea has not come out of this looking good. All the talk about him being better than Crutchlow and a certainty to be top 5 in MotoGP (something I've always disagreed with) has been tarnished if not proven laughable. Hopefully Bautista dominates him all season. The bike is doing nothing in the hands of proven race winners Davies and Laverty. Bautista is the difference. He is a genuine top 8 MotoGP rider. I've said before that a win in WSB is roughly equal to a top ten in MotoGP.
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Post by neilf on Feb 28, 2019 8:57:17 GMT
To be fair to Davies, he is carrying an injury which isn't allowing him to move properly on the V4R and, according to Dall'Igna, his is preventing him from finding the front end feel that he needs.
As for Laverty, he has been riding a pup for the past two seasons which didn't have any developmental input from the Aprilia factory (one suspects that their efforts are solely focused on MotoGP); hence the reason why SMR swapped to BMW. The V4R he is riding this season is supported by Ducati, but the team is running Bultaco suspension so I can only guess how different the set up will be in comparison to the factory team. Plus, the Go Eleven deal came together very late in the pre-season.
When Davies has recovered and is up to speed, then we'll see whether it's the bike or the rider that's making the difference i.e. Bautista. I'm not saying that you're wrong Droog or that I disagree with you, I'm just arguing the case against.
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Post by Droog on Feb 28, 2019 9:33:37 GMT
It's a fair point. I think Haslam will scalp Rea a few times this season also. Shows the level of BSB in a positive light.
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Post by mekon on Feb 28, 2019 10:01:45 GMT
Haslam's performance doesn't show Sykes in a great light after the last couple of years. Then again Spies didn't either.
Wish Melandri would stop with the Vinales disease as well. Fast enough by the end but not fast enough at the start.
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