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Post by pantah on Dec 3, 2023 17:41:49 GMT
Anyone here gone electric? I’ve been considering for a couple of years and done loads of research on the subject.
Finally took the plunge this week and bought a 2019 VW E Golf. We’ve had solar panels for about 8 years and on the feed in tariff scheme so it makes good sense financially. Did a private deal on an owner car with 30000 miles on the clock in Bury. Needed 2 charging stops on way home but i'm uber impressed with the driving experience. Loads of power and very sure footed. Managed eventually to suss out the remote heating which means the car is warmed up and demisted whilst plugged in.
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Post by mekon on Dec 3, 2023 21:43:30 GMT
It would probably make more sense for me than a diesel SLK as I only generally do trips of no more than 40 miles. I was looking and stuff like the electric Mii was actually available with about 12k miles on for less than £10k. Trouble is really am just not interested. I've got a drive with space for 3 cars and could have a charger but I can't get past noise.
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Post by beefus on Dec 4, 2023 6:12:59 GMT
I suppose if you only commute then a car with 140miles range is fine, even better if you can charge for free at work or whatever. Until the average range hits a decent number (it's around 200 miles atm), I'll not be switching.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Dec 4, 2023 18:28:12 GMT
I just can't imagine having to have driven the 720 kms there and the same back from my place to Portimao, towing a trailer in an electric car. I hear the range is hit hard by towing.
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Post by beefus on Dec 4, 2023 19:06:10 GMT
I just can't imagine having to have driven the 720 kms there and the same back from my place to Portimao, towing a trailer in an electric car. I hear the range is hit hard by towing. Our Northern European winter weather also means more battery usage/less range…. |
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Post by pantah on Dec 4, 2023 23:07:56 GMT
I just can't imagine having to have driven the 720 kms there and the same back from my place to Portimao, towing a trailer in an electric car. I hear the range is hit hard by towing. To be honest Clipper the range is hit hard by switching the heater on. I failed to mention that I negotiated the 230 mile journey home with zero degrees outside temperature and never once was brave enough to use the heater. The point is that for a typical 40 round trip commute the golf is perfectly suited and if i want to do a long journey (not often) I’ve got the option of my wife’s Yeti. I realise that the technology is not there unless you have a Tesla budget but it’s fine for most occasions and is far more pleasurable than my old Civic so works for me. |
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Post by neilf on Dec 5, 2023 8:09:46 GMT
For an EV commuter, I'd go for one of these; |
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Dec 5, 2023 9:36:52 GMT
I’ve been considering for a couple of years and done loads of research on the subject. I have questions. Do you have any information on the battery performance and degradation? What's the cost of replacement and when is it expected? What is the actual cost per mile? If you can charge at home and only use it for short journeys then I'm sure it's absolutely fine. The doubts I have concern recycling the batteries. I can see a huge pollution problem looming in 10-20 years. The other issues is in densely populated areas such as tenement flats where every cunt has a car. If each of those cunts had an electric car then how the fuck would they charge them? |
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Post by mekon on Dec 5, 2023 11:22:44 GMT
The electric car only makes sense with a drive as regards charging.
Relying on fast public chargers is apparently more expensive than petrol now. The depreciation is quite large and the whole battery thing is problematic as noodle says. I'll imagine insurance rises are also partly due to too much techobollox in cars as ev cars are potentially not worth repairing if the battery is damaged in an accident.
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Post by beefus on Dec 5, 2023 11:46:17 GMT
As well as recycling, what about the dubious means of extracting the minerals needed to make the batteries, not very "green".....with a bit of slave labour thrown in for good measure. Of course this applies to all our battery driven tech, but I wonder what % of people buy an electric car thinking that their saving the planet?...or is it just to save money?...or both!?
Noodle, the powers that be haven't thought of the infrastructure in the rush to get to so-called net zero.
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Post by neilf on Dec 5, 2023 11:51:12 GMT
As well as recycling, what about the dubious means of extracting the minerals needed to make the batteries, not very "green".....with a bit of slave labour thrown in for good measure. Of course this applies to all our battery driven tech, but I wonder what % of people buy an electric car thinking that their saving the planet?...or is it just to save money?...or both!? Noodle, the powers that be haven't thought of the infrastructure in the rush to get to so-called net zero. The government should have had a staged progression from ICE, to hybrids to full electric, allowing the infrastructure to catch up. |
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Post by beefus on Dec 5, 2023 12:21:34 GMT
As well as recycling, what about the dubious means of extracting the minerals needed to make the batteries, not very "green".....with a bit of slave labour thrown in for good measure. Of course this applies to all our battery driven tech, but I wonder what % of people buy an electric car thinking that their saving the planet?...or is it just to save money?...or both!? Noodle, the powers that be haven't thought of the infrastructure in the rush to get to so-called net zero. The government should have had a staged progression from ICE, to hybrids to full electric, allowing the infrastructure to catch up. But "we" are in panic mode now because apparently it's a climate emergency, and it's all man made. Watch the poor get poorer in the coming decades as a result of green policies. It's become a quasi-religion now and any dissent from the official narrative is met with the usual barrage of "isms". |
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Post by pantah on Dec 5, 2023 13:18:05 GMT
I’ve been considering for a couple of years and done loads of research on the subject. I have questions. Do you have any information on the battery performance and degradation? What's the cost of replacement and when is it expected? What is the actual cost per mile? If you can charge at home and only use it for short journeys then I'm sure it's absolutely fine. The doubts I have concern recycling the batteries. I can see a huge pollution problem looming in 10-20 years. The other issues is in densely populated areas such as tenement flats where every cunt has a car. If each of those cunts had an electric car then how the fuck would they charge them? I don’t have information on battery performance over time or longevity but I think that fast charging is best kept to a minimum as trickle charging is always the best option. I just trickle charge mine from my house but just a normal 240v feed using an RCD trip. Overnight on off peak gives me full charge and I estimate 1000 miles will cost around £20 so big savings to be gained. The disposal of fucked batteries is unknown to me, maybe they’ll bury them in concrete with all the waste plutonium. I get your point about charging if you live in a flat but there is technology being developed which would offer pavement charging with the charger being accessed through a key. The charging unit drops flush when not in use. |
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Dec 5, 2023 19:22:09 GMT
Noodle, the powers that be haven't thought of the infrastructure in the rush to get to so-called net zero. I concur. I see it every day at work. Amazed we got anything built and generating. |
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Dec 6, 2023 21:09:53 GMT
The other issues is in densely populated areas such as tenement flats where every cunt has a car. If each of those cunts had an electric car then how the fuck would they charge them? That's one of the big issues discussed often here in Spain where it's common to live in high rises. Our garage is an underground carpark with 600 spaces. If every space needed to be adapted to charge an electric car one of the residential blocks that the garage serves would probably have to be knocked down to build the substation needed to provide the electricty supply required to charge 600 dars at once. Its just not feasible. There's also the safety issue, if one of the charging cars goes up in flames, thats one hell of a fire in a built up residential area. |
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