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Post by beefus on Oct 12, 2022 11:25:30 GMT
Have you noticed that virtually all of these cunts disrupting ordinary folk are white, and the ones who get media time seem all sound very, shall we say, "middle/upper class"?
White liberal saviours want to stop dead all oil and gas production, just like that?
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Post by mekon on Oct 12, 2022 11:36:44 GMT
Just Tarquin and Emily tickbox exercise to convince themselves they did something once before they move to a life of rampant hypocritical consumerism and buy Gucci and an Aston Martin.
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Oct 12, 2022 12:17:53 GMT
There's no doubt that we need to move away from a carbon economy, in many environmental respects it's too late now and we're in damage limitation mode but it can't be done overnight.
The problem with these single-issue-cunts is that they can't/don't/won't gauge the effects of their issue on other issues. I had a 'robust' discussion with an eco-warrior at work. Not quite a middle class cunt but otherwise fits the bill of the discussion. He was wanking himself into a coma over the escalating cost of fuel over the summer. I pointed out that many poorer employees worked unsociable hours in remote places where public transport just wasn't an option and they needed their cars. The cost of fuel was pushing them further into poverty and there was no alternative for them. So, was his main agenda of saving the planet worth causing poverty and destitution for its inhabitants? A basic quandary but it fried his fucking motherboard.
Also, the same cunt refuses to own a car but can regularly be spotted cadging lifts to places where he can't get a fucking bus.
So aye, we need to phase out oil but it needs proper planning and investment and these simplistic fuckers aren't really helping.
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Post by mekon on Oct 12, 2022 13:06:30 GMT
Unless we go back to the stone age we can't stop using oil. It's literally in everything we use.
Tarquin will taking a selfie of himself with his plastic and rare earth metals based phone and then cycling off with his bicycle full of oil based products and oil aided construction.
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Oct 12, 2022 16:18:32 GMT
It's in everything we do because we've spent well over a century building a global economy around it. Of course we can stop using it but it will be gradual and may well take another fucking century.
I'm all for a transition to a hydrogen economy but It's not a direct swap. Hydrogen doesn't contain as much energy as, say, natural gas and it requires careful handling to stop it escaping. So we have a potential partial solution but who's doing the R&D?
In reality, a non carbon economy will come about using a range of solutions and alternatives but it will take decades, a long term vision and serious investment. Issuing new drilling licences for the North Sea and chat about fracking gives out totally the wrong message. It will solve fuck all and just create more environmental problems.
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Post by mekon on Oct 16, 2022 12:44:37 GMT
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Nov 9, 2022 14:42:48 GMT
Yesterday The Filth arrested an LBC journalist covering the protests. Despite showing them her press pass she was handcuffed, taken to the station and held in a cell for 5 hours before being released without charge. It's reported that 2 other journalists were arrested this week.
Every cunt happy with this? Tory Britain in 2022 where journalists are locked up for doing their job? We are well on the slippery fucking slope if this goes unpunished. I hope she sues the fucking hole off them. Our rights are being eroded and don't for a second think that this has nothing to do with Brexit.
Also, protesters are being jailed. For protesting against destruction of the planet. What a fucking state we're in.
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Post by mekon on Nov 9, 2022 16:16:02 GMT
Dangerous path once you allow exceptions to the law for certain things.
The fact the police are arresting people for public order offences when real public order offences are happening in plain sight is more worrying. They clearly do not serve the people and it appears sometimes not even the government.
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Nov 11, 2022 18:15:20 GMT
17 degrees in Glasgow today. In the middle of November. Maybe we should be paying more attention to these protester cunts instead of whining about being stuck on the M25 for hours bursting for a shite.
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Post by mekon on Nov 11, 2022 21:57:22 GMT
I went Dublin zoo mid 2000s and it was 15 degrees mid December.
Thing is with climate change is nothing predicted since the 50s has come to pass. The UK was supposed to be in a new ice age by now due to the collapse of various air streams.
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Nov 11, 2022 22:37:44 GMT
Yeah, that's the crazy thing about science, the more data you have the better your analysis becomes.
Ultimately it doesn't matter a fuck how warm it's getting in the UK (for now). The more immediate problems are in areas where it's already too hot to live. Expect more boats in Kent.
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Post by mekon on Nov 12, 2022 6:43:26 GMT
Yeah its not like someone is funding all this migration or anything. What climate emergency is Albania suffering?
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Post by beefus on Nov 12, 2022 10:21:20 GMT
Global warming became climate change which then became the the climate emergency…..so something that happens naturally, the warming of the planet (no doubt helped in part by human technological advances and livestock farting), has become an almost cult-like state of affairs. Some of these “activists” actually think that they won’t reach 25 because the planet will not be habitable in a few years, which is total nonsense. Fossil fuels will eventually be phased out in the coming decades but you can’t just stop using them and hope that everything will be hunky dory, unless we want mass starvation across the globe.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Nov 12, 2022 11:27:28 GMT
Thing is with climate change is nothing predicted since the 50s has come to pass. The UK was supposed to be in a new ice age by now due to the collapse of various air streams. The 50's? What computers were they using then for data modelling? As El Noodle says, the more data modelling you do the more accurate it becomes when you get more real life data. How much more data processing can a modern computer do to those in the past. I started in IT as a computer operator in 1985 at one of the bank's main computer centres in Gloucester. The mainframes were around the size of 5 wardrobes and we had 4 of them. From memory, the mainframe room was the size of a sports hall with a badminton court, and was full of kit like hard disk drives, each disc twice as large as an LP record, 15 disks per pack(?). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM_magnetic_disk_drives#/media/File:IBM3380DiskDriveModule.agr.jpgThe IBM 3380 Direct Access Storage Device was introduced in June 1980.[46] It uses film head technology and has a unit capacity of 2.52 gigabytes (two hard disk assemblies each with two independent actuators each accessing 630 MB within one chassis) with a data transfer rate of 3 megabytes per second. Average access time was 16 ms. Purchase price at time of introduction ranged from $81,000 to $142,200.I've got 2GB of storage on my laptop, costing £500 a 5-6 years ago. Todays mainframes are probably about the size of a fridge. I had a look around the computer centre in Poole before they closed it down, it was nearly empty. Recent forecasts have been more extremes of weather as the jetstreams around the world have a wobble. The UK is on a highish latitude so when the warmer jetstream goes AWOL and we have high pressure and easterly winds we get the Beast from the East. When the jetstream is strong like now, instead of doing its seasonal trip north, we get warm winds from the south, Africa, so its warm. |
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Nov 12, 2022 11:34:32 GMT
What climate emergency is Albania suffering? Blame Norman Wisdom. |
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