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Magny Cours Sept 29, 2017 11:12:42 GMT

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Post by neilf on Sept 29, 2017 11:12:42 GMT

All Rea needs is to score 5 or more points than Sykes over the two races this weekend and that's it; job done!

Davide Giugliano standing in for Bradl and Jake Gagne is back for Honda.

WSB FP1

1. Jonathan Rea GBR Kawasaki Racing ZX-10RR 1m 37.849s
2. Leon Camier GBR MV Agusta RC F4 RR 1m 38.032s
3. Lorenzo Savadori ITA Milwaukee Aprilia RSV4 1m 38.235s
4. Marco Melandri ITA Aruba.it Racing Ducati Panigale R 1m 38.249s
5. Chaz Davies GBR Aruba.it Racing Ducati Panigale R 1m 38.292s
6. Alex Lowes GBR PATA Crescent Yamaha R1 1m 38.320s
7. Michael van der Mark NED PATA Yamaha YZF-R1 1m 38.548s
8. Xavi Fores ESP Barni Ducati Panigale R 1m 38.663s
9. Jordi Torres ESP Althea BMW S1000RR 1m 38.799s
10. Tom Sykes GBR Kawasaki Racing ZX-10RR 1m 38.853s
11. Roman Ramos ESP Team Go Eleven Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1m 39.354s
12. Leandro Mercado ARG IodaRacing Aprilia RSV4 1m 39.573s
13. Anthony West AUS Puccetti Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1m 39.770s
14. Eugene Laverty IRE Milwaukee Aprilia RSV4 1m 39.792s
15. Raffaele De Rosa ITA Althea BMW S1000RR 1m 39.819s
16. Davide Giugliano ITA Red Bull Honda CBR1000RR SP2 1m 40.845s
17. Ayrton Badovini ITA Grillini Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1m 40.350s
18. Alessandro Andreozzi ITA Guandalini Yamaha YZF-R1 1m 40.465s
19. Riccardo Russo ITA Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1m 40.655s
20. Matthieu Lussiana FRA Team ASPI BMW S1000RR 1m 41.081s
21. Jake Gagne USA Red Bull Honda CBR1000RR SP2 1m 41.341s
22. Ondrej Jezek CZE Grillini Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1m 41.672s

At least WSS is still tight at the top;

WSS FP1

1. Lucas Mahias FRA GRT Yamaha YZF-R6 1m 41.502s
2. Kenan Sofuoglu TUR Kawasaki Puccetti Racing ZX-6R 1m 42.101s
3. Federico Caricasulo ITA GRT Yamaha YZF-R6 1m 42.141s
4. PJ Jacobsen USA MV Agusta Reparto Corse F3 675 1m 42.157s
5. Niki Tuuli FIN Kallio Racing Yamaha YZF-R6 1m 42.161s
6. Jules Cluzel FRA CIA Landlord Insurance Honda CBR600RR 1m 42.392s
7. Michael Canducci ITA Puccetti Junior Team Kawasaki ZX-6R 1m 42.421s
8. Lorenzo Zanetti ITA Vamag MV Agusta F3 675 1m 42.628s
9. Sheridan Morais RSA Kallio Racing Yamaha YZF-R6 1m 42.647s
10. Kyle Smith GBR Gemar Team Lorini Honda CBR600RR 1m 42.675s
11. Luke Stapleford GBR Profile Racing Triumph Daytona 675 1m 42.677s
12. Alessandro Zaccone ITA MV Agusta Reparto Corse F3 675 1m 42.713s
13. Rob Hartog NED Team Hartog-Jenik Against Cancer Kawasaki ZX-6R 1m 42.950s
14. Gino Rea GBR Team Go Eleven Kawasaki ZX-6R 1m 42.959s
15. Alex Baldolini ITA ATK#25 MV Agusta F3 675 1m 42.970s
16. Hikari Okubo JPN CIA Landlords Insurance Honda CBR600RR 1m 42.997s
17. Christian Gamarino ITA Bardahl Evan Bros Honda CBR600RR 1m 43.098s
18. Christoffer Bergman SWE CIA Landlord Insurance Honda CBR600RR 1m 43.361s
19. Roberto Rolfo ITA Honda CBR6000RR 1m 43.856s
20. Peter Sebestyen HUN Kawasaki ZX-6R 1m 44.003s
21. Hannes Soomer EST WILSport Racedays Honda CBR600RR 1m 44.012s
22. Stefan Hill GBR Profile Racing Triumph Daytona 675 1m 44.050s
23. Kyle Ryde GBR Kawasaki Puccetti Racing ZX-6R 1m 44.151s
24. Zulfahmi Khairuddin ESP Orelac Kawasaki ZX-6R 1m 44.481s
25. Nacho Calero ESP Orelac Racing Kawasaki ZX-6R 1m 44.688s
26. Lachlan Epis AUS Response RE Racing Kawasaki ZX-6R 1m 44.828s
27. Jaimie van Sikkelerus NED MVR Racing Yamaha YZF-R6 1m 44.873s
28. Kazuki Watanabe JPN Team Go Eleven Kawasaki ZX-6R 1m 44.916s
29. Stephane Frossard SUI Yamaha YZF-R6 1m 45.080s
30. Cedric Tangre FRA Suzuki GSX-R600 1m 45.529s

Last Edit: Sept 29, 2017 11:14:06 GMT by neilf

I mean, some people are Edwards, wise, kind. Some are Henrys, hardworking, and strong. Some people are Diesels. F*** me! Those are trouble. You, though, yeah, you seem like a Percy. Young, Sweet. Not all there.

neilf God Posts: 2,268	Magny Cours Sept 29, 2017 15:37:32 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by neilf on Sept 29, 2017 15:37:32 GMT Business usual in WSB FP2, with vdM slotting into second.
	I mean, some people are Edwards, wise, kind. Some are Henrys, hardworking, and strong. Some people are Diesels. F*** me! Those are trouble. You, though, yeah, you seem like a Percy. Young, Sweet. Not all there.

Eddie The Bastard Administrator Posts: 2,684	Magny Cours Sept 29, 2017 18:47:23 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Eddie The Bastard on Sept 29, 2017 18:47:23 GMT Sept 29, 2017 11:12:42 GMT neilf said: All Rea needs is to score 5 or more points than Sykes over the two races this weekend and that's it; job done! So he'll be crowned champion after race one then.
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bella Senior Member Posts: 341	Magny Cours Sept 29, 2017 21:41:53 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by bella on Sept 29, 2017 21:41:53 GMT He's going to be the first triple winner and stands only eleven short of foggy's record total of race wins which he'll surely surpass next season whilst probably taking a fourth consecutive title......best ever WSBK rider ?

vazy Senior Member Posts: 301	Magny Cours Sept 30, 2017 18:42:01 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by vazy on Sept 30, 2017 18:42:01 GMT Cracking ride and well deserved title.

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Magny Cours Oct 1, 2017 16:48:23 GMT

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Post by Buddy Repperton on Oct 1, 2017 16:48:23 GMT

Worst season ever. Least competition for a title ever. Least interest in WSB ever from UK crowds. Too many mediocre brits, too many mediocre teams, too little money in the paddock, no tv viewers, no crowd.

Shut the door on this one boys and pretend you only watched it in the 90s.

Rea could win 5 more titles and nobody will care.

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Magny Cours Oct 2, 2017 8:53:12 GMT Eddie The Bastard likes this

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Post by philthewindsurfer on Oct 2, 2017 8:53:12 GMT

Sept 30, 2017 18:42:01 GMT vazy said:

Cracking ride and well deserved title.

Yep, he has had some outstanding opening laps in race 2 this year whilst on his way to the title. The organisers tried to make it more difficult for r1 winners and he answered back. Its not his fault the series is fucked.

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Magny Cours Oct 2, 2017 8:58:00 GMT

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Post by neilf on Oct 2, 2017 8:58:00 GMT

Oct 2, 2017 8:53:12 GMT philthewindsurfer said:

Sept 30, 2017 18:42:01 GMT vazy said:

Cracking ride and well deserved title.

Yep, he has had some outstanding opening laps in race 2 this year whilst on his way to the title. The organisers tried to make it more difficult for r1 winners and he answered back. Its not his fault the series is fucked.

Similar to the Doohan years in 500GP during the '90s. Mick was always of the impression that the other riders and manufacturers should try harder.

I mean, some people are Edwards, wise, kind. Some are Henrys, hardworking, and strong. Some people are Diesels. F*** me! Those are trouble. You, though, yeah, you seem like a Percy. Young, Sweet. Not all there.

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Magny Cours Oct 3, 2017 8:06:27 GMT

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Post by mysterio on Oct 3, 2017 8:06:27 GMT

Sept 29, 2017 21:41:53 GMT bella said:

He's going to be the first triple winner and stands only eleven short of foggy's record total of race wins which he'll surely surpass next season whilst probably taking a fourth consecutive title......best ever WSBK rider ?

At this moment in time I still have Fogarty ahead, mainly due to two reasons. Firstly I think Fogarty was up against better riders overall during his time. As an example, Melandri is one of the riders on one of the four bikes that can win and Melandri is so far past his best it's a joke. Looking at Sykes nowdays he seems to have accepted he can't beat Rea and spends most of his time living in Rea's pocket. Davies always manages to find a couple of crashes at crucial times in the season to ruin his title chances. Whether there are any other good riders in the championship is irrelevant as their bikes are substandard and can't touch the factory Ducati or Kawasaki bikes.
Secondly, Fogarty rode against (and for) HRC when they give a fuck.
Rea and Fogarty probably are the best two WSB riders because of their records but I think Bayliss, Edwards and Spies were better than either of them and would have won loads more titles between them if they hadn't stepped upto GP's.
Best rider to ride in WSB, I go with Doohan.

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Magny Cours Oct 3, 2017 18:39:23 GMT

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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Oct 3, 2017 18:39:23 GMT

Oct 3, 2017 8:06:27 GMT mysterio said:

At this moment in time I still have Fogarty ahead, mainly due to two reasons. Firstly I think Fogarty was up against better riders overall during his time. As an example, Melandri is one of the riders on one of the four bikes that can win and Melandri is so far past his best it's a joke. Looking at Sykes nowdays he seems to have accepted he can't beat Rea and spends most of his time living in Rea's pocket. Davies always manages to find a couple of crashes at crucial times in the season to ruin his title chances. Whether there are any other good riders in the championship is irrelevant as their bikes are substandard and can't touch the factory Ducati or Kawasaki bikes.
Secondly, Fogarty rode against (and for) HRC when they give a fuck.
Rea and Fogarty probably are the best two WSB riders because of their records but I think Bayliss, Edwards and Spies were better than either of them and would have won loads more titles between them if they hadn't stepped upto GP's.
Best rider to ride in WSB, I go with Doohan.

Fair points there. Mind you, it was a better attended series back then so much more of a buzz about it. Now its not a 'must watch' which is sad.

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philthewindsurfer God Posts: 4,006	Magny Cours Oct 3, 2017 18:48:05 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by philthewindsurfer on Oct 3, 2017 18:48:05 GMT Kocinski finished ahead of Foggy on a Ducati. Next season they swapped bikes. Kocinski finished ahead of Foggy on a Honda. He won 14 out of 48 races in those 2 years.
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Magny Cours Oct 4, 2017 16:20:52 GMT

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Post by Droog on Oct 4, 2017 16:20:52 GMT

Ben Spies had one year and he was on a new bike that was good but not the best package out there. He had to learn most of the tracks and he had a fair bit of bad luck. Despite that he won. For me he is probably the best WSB rider ever. I don't count riders who had a couple of one off rides in the series.

Maybe it's a producer with a wonderful part.

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Magny Cours Oct 5, 2017 21:23:58 GMT

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Post by mysterio on Oct 5, 2017 21:23:58 GMT

Oct 3, 2017 18:48:05 GMT philthewindsurfer said:

Kocinski finished ahead of Foggy on a Ducati. Next season they swapped bikes. Kocinski finished ahead of Foggy on a Honda. He won 14 out of 48 races in those 2 years.

This is the problem with championships where people move on (thinking about it that's every championship apart from MotoGP).

The easiest example is Superglue in WSS. Five WSS titles, so has to be considered the greatest WSS rider purely on the stats. Problem is when better riders have 'passed through' so to speak (Crutchlow, Lowes, Van Der Mark) it makes you wonder how good Superglue really is.

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Magny Cours Oct 6, 2017 8:10:08 GMT

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Post by neilf on Oct 6, 2017 8:10:08 GMT

Oct 5, 2017 21:23:58 GMT mysterio said:

Oct 3, 2017 18:48:05 GMT philthewindsurfer said:

Kocinski finished ahead of Foggy on a Ducati. Next season they swapped bikes. Kocinski finished ahead of Foggy on a Honda. He won 14 out of 48 races in those 2 years.

This is the problem with championships where people move on (thinking about it that's every championship apart from MotoGP).

The easiest example is Superglue in WSS. Five WSS titles, so has to be considered the greatest WSS rider purely on the stats. Problem is when better riders have 'passed through' so to speak (Crutchlow, Lowes, Van Der Mark) it makes you wonder how good Superglue really is.

Don't forget Chaz ;-)

Crutchlow ('99), Chaz ('11) and Lowes ('13) all used the same R6 to win their championships; allegedly! I'm not sure how much truth there was in this "fact" though.

I mean, some people are Edwards, wise, kind. Some are Henrys, hardworking, and strong. Some people are Diesels. F*** me! Those are trouble. You, though, yeah, you seem like a Percy. Young, Sweet. Not all there.

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