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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 6, 2022 11:00:59 GMT
Bastianini top of the list again today. The Ducati factory riders are 6th and 14th. I guess they are developing the new kit whereas Bastianini is riding a well sorted bike. Like last year's test, most of the regular riders are within 1s of top. Its all pretty close. If you go back to 2010 (the oldest times available on motogp site) 1s was 1st to 6th-ish. www.motogp.com/en/TestResults/MotoGP+Sepang+Test+2+2010
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Post by mekon on Feb 6, 2022 11:15:36 GMT
EBast will be the threat to Miller's factory seat. Now or never for Miller this year. 8th season in MotoGP.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 6, 2022 13:52:46 GMT
EBast will be the threat to Miller's factory seat. Now or never for Miller this year. 8th season in MotoGP. This year is Millers 2nd year in the factory team. He signed for 1 year (+1 if it went well), then got the extra 1 year extension 25th May. 3 years on a Honda customer bike. Hardly last chance saloon. But if Bastianini is ahead of Miller after 6 or so races I reckon Ducati bosses are so desperate for a Ducati champion they will sign him. Depends on what Bagnia is doing as well.
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Post by mekon on Feb 6, 2022 15:32:34 GMT
Ducati aren't from the softly, softly school of rider handling so Miller will know how it is. Could also well be Baggs if he doesn't perform. I really think the Ducati is probably the best package and Ducati are probably also thinking the machine is overdue someone who's going to bring it home.
I'm more intrigued with the Aprilia. I guess Vinales is top tier when he feels like it but I'm not sure he's the man for job.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Feb 7, 2022 8:13:41 GMT
This year is looking like Zarco's last in Ducati, or at least Pramac, talk even of him replacing Bautista in WSB in 23.
Ducati are generally too impatient with their riders, but TBH after Dovi "failed" for so many consecutive years its hardly a surprise.
But who are in most trouble seem to be KTM... best position 15th, with every other manufacturer having at least one bike in the top 7. Are they counting on Raúl and Gardner to save the show by getting up to speed during the season?
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Post by mekon on Feb 7, 2022 8:55:10 GMT
Yeah, I was never sold on the idea that KTM moved forward in 2021. I think 2020 flattered them.
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Post by armstrongracer on Feb 8, 2022 8:51:30 GMT
Think Ducati may have shot themselves in the foot by having too many good riders on good bikes. Can see up to 4 different Ducati riders being able to win a GP and robbing points off the No1. They will piss the manufacturers but can see FQ getting the championship again by consistency and stealth. Throw in MM getting a few wins and possibly Aprilia and Suzuki getting one apiece plus FQ doing the biz on Yamaha tracks, sharing Ducati wins will hurt their possible championship.
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Post by mekon on Feb 8, 2022 12:00:18 GMT
Fabio was more consistent last year but not the sort of consistency that would have seen off prime Marquez. I do wonder if Yamaha have done enough for this season.
Dovi already going on about how you have to ride the bike like Fabio to get anything out of it. Count him out this year. Hope he gets dumped if he underperforms.
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Post by mekon on Feb 8, 2022 17:37:59 GMT
Just read FQ isn't happy with Yamaha's progress over the off season. Maybe he'll get some Ducati money and bugger off to them.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Feb 9, 2022 13:53:43 GMT
Just read FQ isn't happy with Yamaha's progress over the off season. Maybe he'll get some Ducati money and bugger off to them. Dovi complaining too I see. Its going to be a curious season for Yamaha, Fabio alreday getting his excuses in and trying to defend his title with Marc back in the mix and Ducati potentially stronger than last year, questions over Morbidelli's health? Dovi coming back from his motocross holiday and Binner Binder riding because the lawyers made their point well... Quartararo really has to be at least top Yam. In the other factories though it's not so clear who will be top rider. Marc will obviously be top Honda (unless he hurts himself again that is), but who will be top Ducati? Bastianini won't hold the crown for long. Jorge could do it on the Pramac if Bagnaia has a bad run of things.... And Suzuki? If Rins stops crashing he could be ahead of Mir I reckon (Mir is already eyeing Pol's HRC ride). Aprilia is totally open for discussion, as is KTM.... Throw in the inevitable cancellations due to the 7th and 8th wave of Covid strains and we're in for a blinder of a year!
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 9, 2022 14:15:10 GMT
I was going to check the results from Sepang, but MotoGP.com have fucked up the website for the results for 2022.
Is the Yamaha still slowest?
I was going to create a poll for who we think will be champion, but Mandalika starts on the 11th. After the 1st test, seems wide open, which is brilliant.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Feb 9, 2022 17:35:19 GMT
Is the Yamaha still slowest? If you take average times of the fastest lap of each rider (excluding test riders) per manufacturer yes, Yamaha are slowest: Average fastest lap by manufacturer: 1, Aprilia 1'58.209 2, Suzuki 1'58.395 3, Ducati 1'58.504 4, Honda 1'58.540 5, KTM 1'59.061 6, Yamaha 1'59.205
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 9, 2022 18:12:38 GMT
I was thinking more of top speed down the straight. Last year the Yamahas were quite often the slowest on top speeds, including FQ in the bottom 5.
I've found day 1 top speeds:
1. Honda - 337.5km/h 2. Ducati - 336.4km/h 3. Aprilia - 336.4km/h 4. Yamaha - 332.3km/h 5. KTM - 332.3km/h 6. Suzuki - 331.2km/h
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Feb 10, 2022 10:05:58 GMT
You mean I worked out those averages for no reason?
Damn you and your statistical demands!
Still, I was surprised to see that Yamaha are "on average" even slower than KTM.
It could be that Binner Binder's time has dragged the average down, in fact, if I remove his best time and substitute it with that of Crutchlow the Yamaha average goes up to 1'59.056 which puts the Yam ahead (slightly) of KTM.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 10, 2022 10:46:43 GMT
Your stats are interesting, guess Yamaha are last perhaps because they have the rookiest rookie in Bash Binder. Just noticed that top speed list isnt in speed order. Its not even in alphabetical order. Useless fuckers. www.autosport.com/motogp/news/motogp-sepang-test-day-1-results-crash-stats-top-speeds-and-more/7905374/ Speed order, but FQ ran on into the gravel on his top speed run. They didnt mention Suzuki's top speed, but said Ducati still has a powerful engine? Suzuki - 331.2km/h Yamaha - 332.3km/h KTM - 332.3km/h Ducati - 336.4km/h Aprilia - 336.4km/h Honda - 337.5km/h I guess you need to be there to see who is slip streaming who and who looks to have the fastest bike on top speed.
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