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Post by Mekon on Aug 19, 2018 16:53:29 GMT
Sorry but that leg is beyond stupid. Did he dislocate it to stick it out that far? One day some is going to collect him and it'll be season over for him again.
Dixon's team are right to be aggrieved as that wasn't just leg dragging. I know the Eurocronies were putting it down to Dixon 'getting played' but LEGS ON PEGS should be brought in unless you're about to wipe out.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Aug 20, 2018 11:34:42 GMT
I think he relies on the other riders being sensible, showing some care and not riding into his leg.
Brookes showed once again some not sensible and careless riding again at the same place he forced Rutter off track in Hall Bends some years ago.
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Post by norbs on Aug 20, 2018 17:54:37 GMT
Haslam has done the dangling leg for years, he did it just the same when he was going up the inside of other riders too so I think it's a habit or technique rather than cheating.
Brooke's has always been a cunt. Jamie Whitham doesn't even hide the fact that he doesn't like him any more:)
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Post by pantah on Aug 27, 2018 17:25:18 GMT
I would ban the dangly leg. Can't believe it makes the slightest difference to braking or stability, and Cadwell's narrow track showed how it limits room for overtaking.
Say an overtaking rider collides with said dangly leg and the dangler subsequently crashes, does this mean the non dangler is penalised?
Anyway. i blame Rossi for starting the daft trend.
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Post by matt989 on Aug 27, 2018 18:52:32 GMT
It does make a difference to braking Pants if you ride in a certain style, I've spent quite a bit of time with a couple of the riders I work with understanding why riders do it.
I'm not a fan personally, and it's not something we actively work towards, but there is reasoning behind some riders doing it.
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Post by pantah on Aug 27, 2018 19:19:24 GMT
You’re going to have to explain that to me Matt. What certain style and how does that explain how non danglers like Dovi can outbrake pretty much anyone?
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Post by matt989 on Aug 27, 2018 20:33:11 GMT
It's too much to put in a post Pantah, but effectively they do it to promote a more rearward weight distribution on the brakes whilst their core remains more upright.
Riders like Dovi (and how I work with riders) is to actively sit back and lower the core, to move your centre of mass to the same (or greater) effect with none of the dangling.
It gets confused when you are then using the bike as pivot to turn into the corner with the rear, as that is then a separate moment of inertia change, but the basic premise still applies.
It's difficult to put on text, and has taken me bloody years of learning to understand, hence why we use pit bike drills to explain it to the riders in a way they understand. That seems to work OK thankfully 😁😁
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Post by pantah on Aug 27, 2018 23:41:29 GMT
Thanks for the explanation Matt. I think I understand . Still prefer the Dovi way.
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Post by Mekon on Aug 28, 2018 14:06:07 GMT
Both Ducati riders are smooth. You don't find Lorenzo doing the hokey cokey on the brakes either. Don't think Stoner did it either. There's dragging the leg and sticking the leg out. Out needs to be banned and a give up the position offence.
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Post by armstrongracer on Aug 30, 2018 7:44:07 GMT
Rossi does it (AKA the Dr's Dangle) but he purposly keeps the COG low and inside the bike to help turning. On front shots his shoulder and elbow are invariably outboard of his leg. Haslam sticks the f**n thing out at 90 degrees. I'm surprised he's got away with it for so long, no better man than Brookes for giving him a bit of a lesson, Shakey must have mellowed a bit, few years ago he would have nudged said leg out of the way just to remind Haslam who actually owned the corner.
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Post by pantah on Aug 30, 2018 8:46:54 GMT
I must have missed something. Did Brookes mangle the dangle at Cadwell?
I’ve been wanting someone to do that for yonks.
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