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Post by Mekon on Jul 13, 2018 5:46:36 GMT
Another addition to the RIP list www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/44815725Looking at the history of the TT, it was a big name affair until GP stars started to say 'fuck that' in the 70s. Even after that it still retained some fairly big names, the best of british like Foggy and Hislop still at it until the early 90s. After 2000, apart from those that became TT stars, the actual star quality of the event is pretty much nil and now even those 'names' are getting old or have retired. Guys like Hutchy may be TT legends but they are pretty much midfielders on a track most days. Hickman is probably the biggest talent crossover rider with any success given he's won at BSB level and now TT. There was of course Karl Harris but that, sadly went the way many expected. This year I will admit I didn't watch a single race. I'd looked at the entry list and just thought 'meh' to it and caught up the results on the net later. It just doesn't have a drawing power for me anymore and for some reason the inevitable deaths are turning it from a thrill attraction due to the risk, to a turn off. I must be getting old or something. Once this current crop of TT names retires or are retired do you think the interest will drop off or will the legend carry on even if you've never heard of the riders?
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Post by neilf on Jul 13, 2018 7:47:35 GMT
I know where your coming from, but as a spectacle, real road racing is still as jaw dropping as it ever was. It will never be as safe as closed circuit racing, but then riders die there as well, just not as frequently. Riders weigh up the risks and make a choice. For most it's a way of life with little financial reward, but they do it because of what it gives them in return.
As long as racing is allowed on closed roads, there will be racers who will line up to compete and there will be people who will pay to watch it, regardless of the "names" involved.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Jul 13, 2018 8:00:00 GMT
I've never enjoyed watching the TT etc, I dont like the possibility of watching riders fall off and bounce once then into a wall etc. I dont watch from the s/f straight at Thruxton much as at turn 1 its 20m from the track to the tyre wall which is ridiculously close considering the speeds they go through there.
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Post by vazy on Jul 13, 2018 18:52:34 GMT
They are two different disciplines, its like comparing Moto X with Enduro. Similar skill sets but different approach and mindset. Lets hope that negativity doesn't take away freedom of choice.
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Post by pantah on Jul 17, 2018 18:29:09 GMT
I agree with everything Neil said, for me road racing is the purest form of bike racing especially the TT. I’m going back next year and personally love the buzz. Some of the sanitised continental tracks do nothing for me and the massive F1 style run offs just encourage crazy riding.
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Post by mekon on Jan 29, 2020 17:08:26 GMT
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Jan 29, 2020 20:19:10 GMT
Something might have to be agreed. The roads weren't designed for missiles.
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Post by mekon on Jan 30, 2020 8:19:07 GMT
Seems pretty hard situation to turn about. Maybe what needs to happen is it all runs under one organisation and they need to somehow bring insurance down as the two main problems. Maybe dropping the 1000cc stuff could be a solution as we all still remember a time when 130hp was seen as missile stuff.
How would that come about? Fuck knows! Possibly let stuff die and then start it up under one org once rights are defunct? The problem with dropping the bike power/capacity is 600s are dead as class I guess.
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Post by neilf on Jan 30, 2020 9:32:11 GMT
Seems pretty hard situation to turn about. Maybe what needs to happen is it all runs under one organisation and they need to somehow bring insurance down as the two main problems. Maybe dropping the 1000cc stuff could be a solution as we all still remember a time when 130hp was seen as missile stuff. How would that come about? Fuck knows! Possibly let stuff die and then start it up under one org once rights are defunct? The problem with dropping the bike power/capacity is 600s are dead as class I guess. Supernakeds running superstock rules? A BMW S1000R is knocking out the best part of 160 bhp.
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Jan 30, 2020 19:29:51 GMT
The thing is, riders would probably feel safer on modern missiles that wonderful old machines. Smooth behaving lowered powered bikes wouldn't get the adrenaline flowing so much.
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Post by spuu on Feb 3, 2020 19:44:50 GMT
Something might have to be agreed. The roads weren't designed for missiles. Strongly disagree. Road racing is what it is. And its what Vazy said: freedom of choice. And anyone that thinks that reducing the bhp is an answer to making it realistically any safer is abit deluded imho
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Feb 3, 2020 20:33:14 GMT
Something might have to be agreed. The roads weren't designed for missiles. Strongly disagree. Road racing is what it is. And its what Vazy said: freedom of choice. And anyone that thinks that reducing the bhp is an answer to making it realistically any safer is abit deluded imho I was trying to make the point that something might need to be conceded if these events come under serious pressure.
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Post by spuu on Feb 3, 2020 21:03:57 GMT
Strongly disagree. Road racing is what it is. And its what Vazy said: freedom of choice. And anyone that thinks that reducing the bhp is an answer to making it realistically any safer is abit deluded imho I was trying to make the point that something might need to be conceded if these events come under serious pressure. Ok yes I see what you are saying now. But you are stuck with the problem that Road racing cannot be made safe. And there is no resolution to make it 'safer'. It either continues or gets completely banned
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Apr 15, 2021 19:55:56 GMT
To answer the question again, I fucking hope not.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on May 27, 2021 8:10:42 GMT
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