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Post by mekon on Mar 15, 2023 10:14:44 GMT
This may be twatty but BSB is looking like it's got itself a real 'national' level championship this year. No up and coming talents and talents coming in still hot from better series.
Could be a good one.
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Post by neilf on Mar 15, 2023 11:19:50 GMT
This may be twatty but BSB is looking like it's got itself a real 'national' level championship this year. No up and coming talents and talents coming in still hot from better series. Could be a good one. Yeah, that does sound a bit twatty and it comes across as fairly xenophobic! |
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Post by mekon on Mar 15, 2023 13:47:11 GMT
Eh? Just saying there's no real big names.
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Post by neilf on Mar 15, 2023 14:05:57 GMT
Your whole observation sounded a bit xenophobic, but obviously it was not so I apologise for the misunderstanding.
The last "big hitter" or "still hot talent" from an international series to join BSB was probably Scott Redding; as far as I know he had never raced in the UK fulltime on full length, national tracks.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Mar 30, 2023 9:30:38 GMT
www.britishsuperbike.com/ridersA few observations. 24 riders on the grid. 33 last year, although that might have been end of season when some came in as subs. The Japanese riders arent racing in the UK this year. Brookes was fastest at the recent Silverstone test  www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=BSB/2023/231313co3sbk.pdfBirdy has got his bikes built in Italy. At the Silverstone test, Tommy & Glenn were 19th & 22nd. Glenn was 3rd at the Navarra test, Bridewell 4th. www.bikesportnews.com/news/news-detail/big-read-bsbs-bird-talks-turning-things-around-in-2023BSN: “And what about your old friend Faye Ho and the FHO team, who’ve also got some very good riders, one of whom you will be familiar with?”Bird: “I’m not so sure. BMW don’t seem to have done it anywhere globally, never mind the UK.As mentioned, Brookes was fastest at the recent Silverstone test  Haslam did the Spanish test on a BSB Spec BMW and has signed for a BMW team. He was 2nd in Navarra and 23rd at Silverstone. Ozzie Brayden Elliot was 8th fastest at the test on a SSTK1000 Kawasaki. Is he really hot this year or the BSB riders not up to much. It was cold, so woulnt blame them for taking it steady. The results seem to be very different between Navarra and Silverstone. But we race at Silverstone. Ryde was fastest at Navarra and 2nd at Silverstone. He only won 1 race last year. With Ray gone, will he win more this year? The Yamaha team didnt go to Navarra. O'Halloran was 4th at Silverstone. Will people stop knocking his off? Dont forget the showdown format has gone and is replaced by a variable points scoring system where the latter races score more points than the 8 early rounds. www.britishsuperbike.com/news/2022/nov/17/2023-bennetts-british-superbike-championship-format-unveiled?fbclid=IwAR0qe2eOlnxrtywz1v1ZrKCeNUsDjqsHxdmoXL-qlXsX-ihHFCWTxM9-qBA
Across the Main Season comprising twenty four races points will be awarded to the top 15 on the scale: 18-16-14-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1.
For the Showdown events when the series returns to Oulton Park and Donington Park, the points value per race will increase to: 25-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1.
The points value per race will increase again for the traditional season finale on the Brands Hatch GP Circuit to: 35-30-27-24-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-2.
“The new format will recognise season long performance and ideally create the opportunity for more teams and riders to remain in mathematical title contention and maintain the crescendo of competition that is seen many other sports disciplines.”
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Mar 30, 2023 9:41:01 GMT
1st race at Silverstone 7-9th April.
I was looking at hotels last night. I went for Saturday last year and it was a good day. The weather was good, bright and sunny, temperature was 18c. Not so sure I fancy it next weekend, going off this.
Met Office long range forecast for UK for 3rd to 12th April.
The start of this period is most likely to be changeable. Showers or longer spells of rain remain prevalent, with heavy bursts still likely in places on Sunday. Drier and brighter interludes are possible as well, mainly across western regions, however these may be short-lived as further bands of rain are expected to arrive from the west. Eastern coasts may be rather grey and misty at times. The latter part of the period looks likely to become more settled, albeit with some wetter interludes, these most likely in the south and west of the country. Stronger winds at times, but temperatures remaining close to average, feeling pleasant in any sunshine. There is potential for overnight frost where skies are clear in the north and east.
The long range forecast for Wednesday is max 10c. Fuck that.
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Post by neilf on Mar 30, 2023 10:12:01 GMT
Across the Main Season comprising twenty four races points will be awarded to the top 15 on the scale: 18-16-14-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1.
For the Showdown events when the series returns to Oulton Park and Donington Park, the points value per race will increase to: 25-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1.
The points value per race will increase again for the traditional season finale on the Brands Hatch GP Circuit to: 35-30-27-24-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-2.
“The new format will recognise season long performance and ideally create the opportunity for more teams and riders to remain in mathematical title contention and maintain the crescendo of competition that is seen many other sports disciplines.”
I really don't see the point of the above! |
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Mar 31, 2023 10:46:57 GMT
Its going to be pissing down today, so I might run the numbers through Leon Camier's runaway win to see how close it would have made it. It was that year which started the rule frigging changes.
"maintain the crescendo of competition that is seen many other sports disciplines"
Other season long sports dont have a twatting frig to the points.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Mar 31, 2023 11:23:51 GMT
So if 2009 results were to the new points: Going into the last round Camier, would have a lead of 37 points, not 99.5. With a race win worth 35 at the final round, it makes it a lot tighter, which is the idea. He would have won by 82 points, not 136.5. Easton in 3rd, would be 74 points behind Camier, not 150.5. So still in with a chance. Camier won 16 full point races & the 1/2 points race, out of the 23 before the last round. If doing that means 1 race win + 2 point lead, it puts a lot of pressure on the final round, no room for a mechanical DNF. 2009 had 12 rounds, 2 races at each apart from Brands mid season and the final round. 1 race had 1/2 points.  |
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Post by mekon on Mar 31, 2023 11:54:11 GMT
I just wonder what was wrong with 'Camier kicked arse that year' and that was that. That was his reward, a title and large points haul.
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Post by neilf on Mar 31, 2023 12:07:07 GMT
I just wonder what was wrong with 'Camier kicked arse that year' and that was that. That was his reward, a title and large points haul. Did less people turn up at Silverstone in 2009 then expected because the title had already been wrapped up? Looking back on it, I think it was more about getting fans through the gates and putting bums on seats. |
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Apr 15, 2023 10:26:52 GMT
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Post by mekon on Apr 15, 2023 10:38:25 GMT
I think the new improved Ducati will go well at Oulton.
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