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Post by beefus on Apr 5, 2021 18:01:48 GMT
So since the beginning of March I started to feel loss of sensation at the top of my right thigh, it got worse and also affected my pelvic area on the right side, so I ended up with some quite severe nerve pain in y lower back, thigh and pelvis, especially at night. At the worst point I couldn’t walk more than a couple of hundred meters before the pain kicked in. Had physiotherapy throughout March but didn’t really make much difference, although I felt a slight improvement around the 4th week. Got an MRI last Tuesday and they confirmed a hernia....or a sequestered hernia in L2/L3 to be medically correct!.
This when part of the nucleus comes out the centre of the disc and, in my case, impinges on the femoral nerve. Neurologist told me to do 60 reps a day in sets of 10 of the lying face down back stretch...pushing up on the hands to arch the back as much as possible keeping the pelvis on the floor....it’s weird because it provokes the nerve and I feel tingling in my thigh but it actually works. He basically said go back to doing my normal routine and if something hurts, stop.
I’d been doing this exercise before seeing the neurologist but he pushed me to really arch the back until it feels like my lower back is going to snap...but I can feel a big difference already after one week. I’m chuffed because, surgery aside, nerve impingement issues can take a long time to clear up but I can feel the sensation in my thigh starting to return..and surgery was going to be plan b as a last resort.
Took my bike out yesterday for a ride and all ok, no issues there...So from having been in a bit of a downer for a few weeks worrying of this was going to be a long term thing I’m feeling much more positive now...
The joys of ageing!!
Its also stressed the importance of regular stretching to keep as flexible as possible.
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Apr 5, 2021 19:22:32 GMT
I thought this was going to be abdominal, not spinal.
The longer you can keep off the operating table the better, so good news so far.
I tend to have a stretching frenzy if I get a bit of back ache - that normally solves it.
Also, easy to say, but the leaner you are the better for your back too.
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Apr 5, 2021 19:34:13 GMT
So since the beginning of March I started to feel loss of sensation at the top of my right thigh, it got worse and also affected my pelvic area on the right side, so I ended up with some quite severe nerve pain in y lower back, thigh and pelvis, especially at night. At the worst point I couldn’t walk more than a couple of hundred meters before the pain kicked in. Had physiotherapy throughout March but didn’t really make much difference, although I felt a slight improvement around the 4th week. Got an MRI last Tuesday and they confirmed a hernia....or a sequestered hernia in L2/L3 to be medically correct!. This when part of the nucleus comes out the centre of the disc and, in my case, impinges on the femoral nerve. Neurologist told me to do 60 reps a day in sets of 10 of the lying face down back stretch...pushing up on the hands to arch the back as much as possible keeping the pelvis on the floor....it’s weird because it provokes the nerve and I feel tingling in my thigh but it actually works. He basically said go back to doing my normal routine and if something hurts, stop. I’d been doing this exercise before seeing the neurologist but he pushed me to really arch the back until it feels like my lower back is going to snap...but I can feel a big difference already after one week. I’m chuffed because, surgery aside, nerve impingement issues can take a long time to clear up but I can feel the sensation in my thigh starting to return..and surgery was going to be plan b as a last resort. Took my bike out yesterday for a ride and all ok, no issues there...So from having been in a bit of a downer for a few weeks worrying of this was going to be a long term thing I’m feeling much more positive now... The joys of ageing!! Its also stressed the importance of regular stretching to keep as flexible as possible. Can you still get a stauner? |
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 5, 2021 20:17:04 GMT
I've got mine at C6 - C7, it is touching the spinal chord so when it plays up it hurts like fuck but in my shoulder and upper arm. Luckily it's been 4 years since I last had big pain.
The doctor who looked at my MRI 4 years ago said that it wasn't if they have to operate, but when, but the "when" was my choice and unless it was having big impact on my life it wasn't worth it.
A month ago, just after I booked my Jarama track day, I got a shot of pain down my arm and accross my shoulder and I panicked a bit and went to the hospital, they did a new MRI and I'm seeing the doctor next week, but it isn't that bad really. I find that I can control it (or the effects of it at least) with Raljex and Ibuprofen mostly.
One day it'll get too much pain too often I suppose, but as Edmundo said, stay away from the operating theatre as long as you can!
Good luck and try to pay attention to what sets off the worst pain and stay away from that type of movement / position. I found that swimming did me no favours at all for example, but cycling doesn't seem to be problematic.
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Post by spentcase on Apr 5, 2021 22:12:52 GMT
I've got ten colours of pain and fucked up nerve sensations, especially in my left arm. I went to a neurologist about it and he reckons it is nerve damage, but he did make me do press ups in my shreddies. He said it was to check for signs of motor neurone disease, the bluffing nonce.
But good to hear that you're doing better, Herre Beefmeister. Chronic pain is utterly shit.
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Post by armstrongracer on Apr 6, 2021 0:01:14 GMT
Yup, was on waiting list for a hip for 3 years, had bone to bone osteoarthritis. Only thing that worked was Solpadeine. My year as a Codene addict.. Chronic pain makes you grumpy as F**ck too, bolloxed my personal life and lost me a contract also. Learned a lot about inflamatory triggers during that time. Losing weight helps, cutting down on dairy, wheat & sugar is good too. My other hip looked as bad as the first under X-ray but 4 years on no pain yet. Surgeon was sure the second one would need operating on a year after the first. Understanding your condition helps to manage it, I swapped walking & running for cyling. Much less impact. I found the same as Diego regarding swimming, mainly due to the cold though. Arthritis hates cold & damp. Growing old is a bastard.
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Post by mekon on Apr 6, 2021 7:24:39 GMT
Glad to hear you have found a pathway out of it (sort of). I'm also guessing trying to get anywhere with the NHS is still a waste of time at the moment.
Ageing is shite. I appear the have strained my shoulder after my peg slip. All I fucking did was essentially a press up to right myself.
Is this the doc you visited Spents?
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Post by spentcase on Apr 6, 2021 8:03:57 GMT
Ha ha. It fucking felt like it at first mate.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Apr 6, 2021 10:28:19 GMT
Jeez, its like the fuckin old peoples home in here  I had to stop canoeing, squash an badminton due to backache over the last 30 years. I wish I'd done more stretching back then. It definitely helps as you get older. 2014 I was off the water with backache after doing something, again. As well as my back, that was shooting pains down the backs of my legs at times where I just had to stand still for 5 seconds then it went away. I know someone (windsurfer) who went under the knife as his back was too bad, I think that was a herniated disc as well. 6-9 months off the water and now 3 years later he still gets his missus to rig his sail as 1 part involves heaving on a rope quite heard. But I think if you can sort it by other means than surgery thats the way to go. |
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Post by elnoodle the reasonable on Apr 6, 2021 10:50:52 GMT
...he still gets his missus to rig his sail as 1 part involves heaving on a rope... Fnarr |
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 6, 2021 11:00:59 GMT
Tech has moved on really quickly for disc replacements. These days they are putting in plastic discs where only a few years back they were fusing vertebrae.
Each case is different of course, but my doctor was quite optimistic that I would get virtually all the pain erradicated with no lasting problems.
I still might ask for help getting my mast rigged though.
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Post by beefus on Apr 6, 2021 11:53:15 GMT
Chronic pain makes you grumpy as F**ck too YUP!!.....my colleagues told me as much!...I was taking diflecanol but it really didn't help much, nerve pain is a bastard and this is probably the worst I've experienced. Clipster, I had the same in C5, got a disc replacement done 10 years ago...pain and tingling down both arms getting worse so I decided, at a 80% success rate, to go for it. Been no probs since. Interesting that cycling has no impact, for me it did, both cycling and motorcycling being in the lean forward head back position..that's what aggravated the nerves. Welcome to the old folks forum! |
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Post by mekon on Apr 6, 2021 12:01:40 GMT
It's shit though. Some people I work with are complete inactive fucks. They could get made quadraplegic and it wouldn't impact their lifestyle that much. It's a pity these people can't take the hit for those that want to actually exercise and do stuff. Guy I work with, his exercise is car to building. He goes to the bog and that's his daily exercise. I walk at least 30 mins each day, rain or shine. This lazy cunt can't even leave his desk unless he'll soil himself.
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Post by beefus on Apr 6, 2021 12:10:01 GMT
Yep, I have a few colleagues who are severely obese. One guy is around 6ft tall, early 50's, must be 120kg easily (probably more), smokes like a chimney, big drinker and is never off sick. I think he's a freak. He does play a lot of golf though, that is his exercise so he does do a lot of walking, but then the 10 pints in the clubhouse sort of negates the walking!!
Walking is what I have been doing more of since lockdown, I try and get out every day for a walk or a cycle.
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Post by spentcase on Apr 6, 2021 12:14:39 GMT
Most of us are fucked up due to having lived active lives.
For me it's a price worth paying. I'd rather live with this background hum of various pains and shit hearing to have done the jobs that I did in the past and still be lifting and hitting the mat/rolling at 50.
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