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Post by mekon on Feb 4, 2021 19:02:40 GMT
My older mate how is in his early 60s was telling me about his gun club days. Apparently he had to give because his mate their turned into a full lunatic.
Supposedly he was an ex-army sniper and hadn't been properly deprogrammed. He had some naughty weapons he shouldn't have had and apparently got itchy to use them. From what he said it seemed it was going all a bit Travis Bickle and one night after a trip to cinema he was particularly ranty and started going on about how he hoped someone would have a go etc. only to reveal a double holster setup and two handguns!
My mate dropped him off and never spoke to him again. He didn't grass him to the cops and he didn't to his knowledge ever waste anyone but who knows!
The only crazy people I would say I've known are people that drive/ride like cunts and some of them paid the ultimate price like the mad cunt that tried an overtaking move at 90 in a 30 into the front of the local bus.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Feb 5, 2021 8:23:55 GMT
Being from a small village, we spent our evenings milling about doing fuck all really. As we got older and the richer ones got motorbikes or cars, they'd cruise through to show off, sometimes stop and chat, sometimes we'd all pile into a car and cruise around with De-Lite MARRS or Snap blasting out.
One day we were milling (an 80's precursor to chilling I suppose) and I was leaning against a pale yellow painted wall. Up rolls a mate's brother in his Ford Capri, Sweeney style, opens the door, pulls a pistol and fires it over the roof of the car at my head.
It was scandalously loud of course, and I spun round to look at the wall really thinking that my dying view would be the remains of my own brain spalttered on the paintwork. Luckily that wasn't the case. It turned out that he had just bought the gun cheap from someone of dubious scruples who told him that it was full of blanks... luckily he was right. But my mate's brother was a bit of a cunt for trying it out on me instead of a coke can I reckon!
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Post by spentcase on Feb 5, 2021 9:21:30 GMT
I have met some flat out loons, guys who every week have the type of life disaster that, for me, would be the utter low point of my year, if not life. But they just genuinely don't seem to care. Stuff like smashing your car up, ruining your marriage, etc etc.
Everyone likes to be perceived as a bit menkle (or 'zany' if you're a radio DJ), it's the whole middle aged house wife putting "I'm mad, me!" On facebook thing, but some dudes are just wired up differently.
I have a friend who has done a runner from custodial sentences in different countries, the same dude who owned a ka-nocking shop in El-Salvador that had other dubious links. This is the same guy who was branded as 'scum' on the front page of the tabloids during the height of football violence (that was whilst he was still a serving soldier).
I knew another lad in boy service who used to fire competition compound bow and arrows down the corridors in the accommodation block without telling anyone, dudes would come out of their rooms and almost get an arrow through the swede. This is the same cat who blatted through red lights on the back wheel doing 60 in a 30 with the polizei chasing him. Eventually they cornered him in some waste ground and ended up setting the dogs on him. He also ran RUC roadblocks during the troubles when we were in NI together in unmarked cars because he was drunk as a lord.
I also served with a dude who was ex selous scouts, he fought in the Rhodesian war, then came across to the British Army and served in the Paras in the Falklands- he was hell on wheels when he got going. He was only a small dude, but I saw him beat the brakes off 3 big Canucks in a bar in Austria, he was like the Tasmanian Devil from the cartoons. I'm not stating this next bit as a good point, but he'd killed over 50 men.
My troop boss in Ireland was 22,(Hereford Gun Club) but had been a young officer in the paras during the Falklands, he'd bayoneted people to death, it sounds dramatic but it's true. He was properly looney tunes. He would always give us rousing quotes at the end of each operational briefing and at the 'O Group' for each week he would read us the citation from a Victoria Cross holder to inspire us for the forthcoming week's ops.
There were a few other 22 and shakey boats lads who had not long come back from Gulf war 1 where they'd done a heap of killing, they were nice blokes but when it came down to it were just a different animal.
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Post by Droog on Feb 5, 2021 10:17:40 GMT
I bet when you work in the armed forces you meet some proper insane bastards amongst the many good guys. Probably handy in a few select situations but mostly a fucking scary hindrance.
I've mentioned a few stories over the years of some old acquaintances that were of dubious morals. Mostly villains from Essex. Seeing as I'm back living in Essex nowadays I'll refrain from retelling any of them here.
But keeping with the gun nut motif, when I was working for a steel manufacturer there was a bloke working on my shift that was gun crazy. He'd worked there all his life and was coming up for retirement about 18 months after I first joined there. He was always a danger to work with. He'd think nothing of swinging ten ton metal sheets above your head on a magnet crane which used to terrify me. If you've ever seen one drop from 10 metres up, the noise and vibration is heart stopping. He used to come in at weekends when we were closed to do pest control with a shotgun dressed in full camo under what I can only describe as a big net with leaves on it. He used to like talking to me because I knew my way around an engine but every conversation I had with him, I'd look at his eyes and think that there was nothing behind them. I used to joke that when he retired he'd be at such a loss that he would turn up one day and kill us all before blowing his brains out.
Me being me I'm a bit of a bully sometimes at work and I used to take the piss out of him a fair bit. Nothing nasty and I got my fair share also at times like you do at work but I could tell I'd pushed his buttons more than once one week and he was stewing on it. One morning shift I was walking into our tea room via the sheet bay and as I came through the double doors he fired a rifle round into the wall what felt like inches from my face. Fucking shit the life out of me and whilst I was calling him a cunt, I noticed he had that blank serial killer look on his face. I honestly thought he was seconds away from shooting me for real. Obviously he didn't but I genuinely believe to this day that he seriously thought about it. Whilst in the tea room he showed us some more of his weapons he'd brought in. The nut had a fucking arsenal. I took a few photos of some of the rifles and hand guns he laid out on some of the tables.
I showed my then missus them when I got home and she reckoned that it was his way of telling me to leave him alone. I didn't though but when he retired it become a running joke at work that he'd turn up one day to do us all in with me being first victim. I would not be surprised to see him on the news one day having gone loco.
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Post by mekon on Feb 5, 2021 14:27:37 GMT
All this gun talk has reminded me about my mates cousin from Australia. When he visited him be like "see that dog over there? Back from I'd shoot that dog". Seemed he would shoot most things.
Apparently he was a medic in the northern territories and you only lived there if you were a criminal or dead ender. He said if you saw anyone trying to flag you down in the middle of nowhere they would probably try and rob you so if you did stop then you should kill them and put their body at the bottom of a dune and they'd be never seen again the next day.
I was never quite sure if he was just telling porkies but who knows.
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Feb 5, 2021 18:31:09 GMT
I love a heartwarming thread.
I can't add to it beyond that.
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Post by mekon on Feb 5, 2021 19:29:55 GMT
One for Spents... Can the army make you a nutter?
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Feb 5, 2021 19:37:19 GMT
A prescient thread given the horror in Kilmarnock.
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Post by spentcase on Feb 5, 2021 23:04:20 GMT
One for Spents... Can the army make you a nutter? Not the army per se fella, but stuff you may have to do can give PTSD but everyone is affected in different ways. A bloke I did a tour of Bosnia with really struggled and ended up effectively bumping himself off through a downward spiral of drink, drugs and putting his Gsxr into a tree with him on it and his blood full of the previously mentioned narcotics. He made no bones about the fact that it was the tour that fucked him up, and having known him before and after, I would agree, the difference was night and day. But most of the lads on the deployment weren't really bothered, although most of us had been on ops before. The tour was in Mostar in the early 90s when it was a bit cheeky. But some dudes join up solely because they want to legally bump people off, which in my eyes means you're already doo-lally. |
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Post by mekon on Feb 5, 2021 23:07:27 GMT
How do they manage those with dubious psyches?
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Post by spentcase on Feb 6, 2021 8:58:01 GMT
How do they manage those with dubious psyches? In terms of blokes who struggle post operations, I don't know what it's like now, it's probably much better due to the greater awareness after the much publicised awfulness of Afghan and Iraq 2. But back in the day there was nothing (in a nutshell). |
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Feb 6, 2021 10:12:50 GMT
I guess the fruit loop Nottingham Joker joins the list.
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Post by mekon on Feb 6, 2021 10:59:38 GMT
It's all bit out there when you get this stuff in civilised society but I guess it's par for the course in some parts of the world. If you grow up in some cartel hellhole then you're probably pretty blase about people getting their heads cut off etc.
Isn't that one of the 'problems' with some of these refugee from parts of Africa? These guys have ratcheted up the hardcore violence to Somali standards and they are the captain now.
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Post by spentcase on Feb 6, 2021 12:09:00 GMT
It's all bit out there when you get this stuff in civilised society but I guess it's par for the course in some parts of the world. Unfortunately that is the case. There's an awful lot of the world where human life is cheap. Whilst the departed are mourned by their loved ones, their deaths are lost in the background noise of excessive other murders and deprivation. Like you said, if you've grown up in that environment then you know no different and that will govern what you see as the norm. It's that kind of situation that allows the sociopaths and shit houses force their way to the top. |
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