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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Aug 30, 2019 7:48:14 GMT
Simple ( I hope) question:
I have a rear paddock stand, with hooks and spools, which I can use on my own, i.e. I can get the bike on the stand with no help from anyone.
If I buy a front stand, the ones which lift at the lower yoke, will I be able to get the front end up on my own after having the back on the stand? Or do you always need help with these?
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Post by neilf on Aug 30, 2019 7:56:01 GMT
As long as the rear paddock stand is stable, you'll be able to manage no problem.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 22, 2020 7:29:41 GMT
Last year I finally did by front end work using axle stands and a precarious combination of paving slabs. This kind of temporary structure is fine if you have a private garage full of material and stuff you can use. But sadly those days are gone because I used to use my in-laws garage which now they don't have. So soon (if we ever are allowed out again) I'm going to have to do some more front end work on the bike, probably with it in the street, and I decided against buying a front paddock stand because even the stem mount ones don't let you change the steering bearings (obviously). I looked at Abba stands, but getting one of those over here is pretty expensive, they're not exactly cheap anyway, then the postage is stupid money. So I bought one of these: www.motea.com/es/moto-caballete-central-constands-center-pro-en-negro-mate-436025-0The idea is to then prop the front end up with a jacked platform under the exhaust.... I'll let you know how much the damage costs to repair
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Post by Droog on Apr 22, 2020 22:13:38 GMT
Front stands that slip into the stem of the bottom yoke are pretty stable as long as the walls of the tubing the stand is made from are not too thin. Easy to use on your own also.
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Post by neilf on Apr 25, 2020 14:11:00 GMT
That looks like a well made stand Clipper. I've had the same Abba stand since '99; all I do when I get a different bike I make some new bobbins to suit. I've also bought extension bars which raise the front wheel off the ground.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Apr 25, 2020 16:41:52 GMT
That looks like a well made stand Clipper. I've had the same Abba stand since '99; all I do when I get a different bike I make some new bobbins to suit. I've also bought extension bars which raise the front wheel off the ground. The bars which raise the front wheel were one of the things that made the Abba stand first choice, but then I read on the Abba site that even they endorse using the normal stand with a jack under the sump / exhaust to tilt the bike back. So I figured that I could do the same with this stand and save some cash. There's no adaptor to use with this one for the same purpose. I wouldn't have been happy drifting the bottom steering bearing race out with a jack under the exhaust, but as I did that job last year and have no plans to change my bike for a while, hopefully it will be years before I'm doing it again. The stand arrived the other day, and it certainly looks and feels sturdy. My biggest worry was the angle of the uprights, it looked like they stayed close to vertical and would only need a slight nudge forward to tip it off the stand, but having set it up and seen it in the flesh (even standing on the pivot points and jumping and wiggling about like a nut case) seems to suggest that my worry was unfounded.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Apr 26, 2020 8:24:00 GMT
I bought an Abba stand like that and put a jack under the sump to get the front wheel off the ground.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on May 10, 2020 21:31:53 GMT
I tried out the new stand this weekend. I have to say that I am pretty pleased with it. It is quite hard to get the bike up onto it because the leverage is all through your foot on the end of the arm which is right back level with the rear spindle. It feels odd doing it without your hand on thr left handlebar, but it is OK. In fact the force needed to get it over the pivot point allayed all fears of being unstable. It is very sturdy, I gave the bike a pretty good wobble and no problem in that respect. To get the front up, I really didn't fancy the jack onto one of the exhaust pipes but there is a clamp between the two lower down pipes as they run under the motor with a bolt head facing downwards. So I made up a cup adapter for the top of my jack that fits like a socket over the head of the clamp bolt so as the jack pushes the front up there's little risk of it slipping out and the weight is spread through the clamp. I reckon that for 99% of work requiring both wheels off the ground it should be fine.
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Post by neilf on May 11, 2020 14:48:55 GMT
Nice one.
To make the lifting easier, you could always add a handle to the upright, perpendicular to the foot lever; it's what the ABBA stand has, although that one does retract into the upright.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Sept 29, 2020 11:36:09 GMT
Did my chain and sprockets this weekend with the bike on this bad boy stand!
I got the front sprocket nut off and torqued back down with only a slight creaking sound from the stand!!!
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