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Dec 12, 2018 19:42:08 GMT
Post by Eddie The Bastard on Dec 12, 2018 19:42:08 GMT
Won't some vote to keep her as PM so as to vote against her deal though?
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Dec 12, 2018 19:47:00 GMT
Post by beefus on Dec 12, 2018 19:47:00 GMT
What I’ll never understand is why someone who was/is an adamant Remainer would want to be PM to lead a Brexit she is against.
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Dec 12, 2018 19:59:49 GMT
Post by philthewindsurfer on Dec 12, 2018 19:59:49 GMT
What I’ll never understand is why someone who was/is an adamant Remainer would want to be PM to lead a Brexit she is against. Maybe to make sure we dont drop out with no deal at all and still have close ties with the EU, on stuff like security. Most Tory MPs were remainers and they selected her. If she does lose this vote, I shudder at some of the other people going for PM. May was Home Secretary when we had all those border staff issues running up to the 2012 Olympics, and the police force cull. It looks to me that we are in the shit but some dont think we are in deep enough. |
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Dec 13, 2018 8:08:50 GMT
Post by philthewindsurfer on Dec 13, 2018 8:08:50 GMT
I guess that result shows that May's deal as is has no chance of being voted for. If she cant get the EU to change the backstop deal then no deal WTO March 2019 here we come. There is no point extending that March date. Will the EU listen? Doubt they will change anything of significance.
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Dec 13, 2018 9:21:52 GMT
Post by Diego the toe clipper on Dec 13, 2018 9:21:52 GMT
I think the fact that May has won is a vote for common sense.
As it stands, the UK can either turn left into a no deal exit, or turn right into a soft deal exit. There are no other roads to take. For me, the 200 who voted in favour of May simply voted to acknowledge this fact. The others seem to have voted for an option that simply doesn't exist.
What is still unknown however is of those who acknowledged the choices available, which ones want to turn left and which ones want to turn right?
As long as the UK doesn't sit at the junction for another 6 months deliberating, I don't care which way it turns.
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Dec 23, 2018 12:20:25 GMT
Post by Eddie The Bastard on Dec 23, 2018 12:20:25 GMT
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Jan 4, 2019 18:59:26 GMT
Post by masonmart on Jan 4, 2019 18:59:26 GMT
We need to calm down. The May deal is designed to keep the UK tied to the EU so that we can be reabsorbed easily in the future. The no deal Brexit is the only Brexit and trading on WTO terms will be fine. Don't fall for project fear, it is an establishment plan to steal democracy from the people of the UK. Our future is with the world not the EU.
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Post by beefus on Jan 7, 2019 14:56:11 GMT
The biggest tw@t in all of this is Corbyn, he's coming outwith a load of nonsense...Labour would re-negotiate, Labour would get a better deal. no, you wouldn't there is no other deal. He's ardently anti-EU but knows that doesn't appeal to his fan base, so is trying to force a GE. If there is an early GE I hope Labour get kicked into the long grass, we're fucked if Corbyn, McDonnell and their bunch of merry Marxists get into power.
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Jan 8, 2019 15:02:13 GMT
Post by philthewindsurfer on Jan 8, 2019 15:02:13 GMT
The biggest tw@t in all of this is Corbyn, he's coming outwith a load of nonsense...Labour would re-negotiate, Labour would get a better deal. no, you wouldn't there is no other deal. He's ardently anti-EU but knows that doesn't appeal to his fan base, so is trying to force a GE. If there is an early GE I hope Labour get kicked into the long grass, we're fucked if Corbyn, McDonnell and their bunch of merry Marxists get into power. All the twat is interested in is to be PM. I guess thats the purpose of the opposition, but when it comes to just blankly refusing to vote in favour of any deal the Tories come up with just to try to bring the government down its piss poor. Their 6 point test on any deal is: 1. Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU? 2. Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union? 3. Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities? 4. Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom? 5. Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime? 6. Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK? So obviously point 6 is the catch all we will reject any deal offered, seeing as Scotland and NI voted remain, England and Wales voted leave. Its pretty much impossible to come up with any deal to satisfy everyone. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45640548 |
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Jan 10, 2019 7:53:36 GMT
Post by pantah on Jan 10, 2019 7:53:36 GMT
Right from the start, two years ago, the PM should have invited cross party debate on brexit negotiation. It's too important an issue to be decided within cabinet. A fucking divided cabinet at that. May now doesn't even have support from her own MP's let alone parliament. Opposition parties are doing what opposition parties do, oppose. Fuck sake, even the DUP who she bought off with a massive bribe are threatening to oppose the budget and bring her down.
It's a crock of shit which started because of Tory splits and is going to end with a huge Tory split and a massive political country split.
It's a joke that the main stumbling block for the Chequers deal is the Irish border issue and this back stop. So what happens if we leave with no deal then? Does it sort itself out miraculously? Does it fuck.
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Jan 13, 2019 17:34:06 GMT
Post by mekon on Jan 13, 2019 17:34:06 GMT
Wish the SNP would shut their fucking mouths. It's amazing they just don't see the irony given what they actually want. If I was a Tory cabinet member I'd have let them have as many referendums as possible until they left just to drop them off opposition list.
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Jan 14, 2019 20:50:55 GMT
Post by pantah on Jan 14, 2019 20:50:55 GMT
Wish the SNP would shut their fucking mouths. It's amazing they just don't see the irony given what they actually want. If I was a Tory cabinet member I'd have let them have as many referendums as possible until they left just to drop them off opposition list. That is just plain bullshit. Why don't you just look at the facts. Brexit is Tory led and a Tory fuck up from beginning to end. If it does actually ever end. Cunts |
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Jan 15, 2019 9:47:28 GMT
Post by mekon on Jan 15, 2019 9:47:28 GMT
The SNP want independence don't they? Even though EU members would stop them joining the EU as it would trigger various other seperatist movements like the Basque issue.
Everytime someone is sticking sticks in the spokes the SNP seem to be involved in some way. They have nothing to offer in actually moving the process on.
Cameron fucked up as he never expected a leave vote. He clearly didn't want it otherwise he wouldn't have stepped down.
Wasn't Leave a 68% Labour supporter decision? Not very Tory at all really.
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Jan 15, 2019 19:21:47 GMT
Post by Eddie The Bastard on Jan 15, 2019 19:21:47 GMT
10 minutes to go until the next car crash.
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Jan 16, 2019 9:32:46 GMT
This is brilliant! Better than any book or film!
Do you reckon they planned all this for the MotoGP off season so we'd have something to keep us entertained?
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