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Post by mekon on Feb 19, 2023 22:06:01 GMT
Could be a boring affair. Or maybe a weird one where someone like Gardner wins.
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Post by mekon on Feb 20, 2023 8:03:40 GMT
1 54 T. RAZGATLIOGLU TUR Pata Yamaha Prometeon WorldSBK Yamaha YZF R1 1'30.674 33 176,478 314,9
2 21 M. RINALDI ITA Aruba.it Racing - Ducati Ducati Panigale V4R 1'30.773 0.099 0.099 31 176,286 314,0
3 1 A. BAUTISTA ESP Aruba.it Racing - Ducati Ducati Panigale V4R 1'30.808 0.134 0.035 42 176,218 314,9
4 65 J. REA GBR Kawasaki Racing Team WorldSBK Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1'30.889 0.215 0.081 20 176,061 314,9
5 55 A. LOCATELLI ITA Pata Yamaha Prometeon WorldSBK Yamaha YZF R1 1'31.096 0.422 0.207 38 175,661 309,5
6 5 P. OETTL GER Team GoEleven Ducati Panigale V4R IND 1'31.595 0.921 0.499 33 174,704 311,2
7 87 R. GARDNER AUS GYTR GRT Yamaha WorldSBK Team Yamaha YZF R1 IND 1'31.600 0.926 0.005 32 174,694 313,0
8 31 G. GERLOFF USA Bonovo Action BMW BMW M1000 RR IND 1'31.671 0.997 0.071 25 174,559 319,5
9 77 D. AEGERTER SUI GYTR GRT Yamaha WorldSBK Team Yamaha YZF R1 IND 1'31.728 1.054 0.057 30 174,451 313,0
10 60 M. VAN DER MARK NED ROKiT BMW Motorrad WorldSBK Team BMW M1000 RR 1'31.832 1.158 0.104 35 174,253 317,6
11 7 I. LECUONA ESP Team HRC Honda CBR1000 RR-R 1'31.904 1.230 0.072 33 174,116 314,9
12 9 D. PETRUCCI ITA Barni Spark Racing Team Ducati Panigale V4R IND 1'32.047 1.373 0.143 30 173,846 316,7
13 45 S. REDDING GBR ROKiT BMW Motorrad WorldSBK Team BMW M1000 RR 1'32.121 1.447 0.074 29 173,706 316,7
14 47 A. BASSANI ITA Motocorsa Racing Ducati Panigale V4R IND 1'32.206 1.532 0.085 34 173,546 309,5
15 22 A. LOWES GBR Kawasaki Racing Team WorldSBK Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1'32.278 1.604 0.072 18 173,411 311,2
16 66 T. SYKES GBR Kawasaki Puccetti Racing Kawasaki ZX-10RR IND 1'32.388 1.714 0.110 19 173,204 302,5
17 76 L. BAZ FRA Bonovo Action BMW BMW M1000 RR IND 1'32.437 1.763 0.049 27 173,112 313,0
18 97 X. VIERGE ESP Team HRC Honda CBR1000 RR-R 1'32.486 1.812 0.049 29 173,021 317,6
19 52 O. KONIG CZE Orelac Racing MOVISIO Kawasaki ZX-10RR IND 1'32.561 1.887 0.075 26 172,881 304,2
20 34 L. BALDASSARRI ITA GMT94 Yamaha Yamaha YZF R1 IND 1'33.387 2.713 0.826 30 171,351 300,0
21 51 E. GRANADO BRA MIE Racing Honda Team Honda CBR1000 RR-R IND 1'34.464 3.790 1.077 19 169,398 301,7
22 35 H. SYAHRIN MAS MIE Racing Honda Team Honda CBR1000 RR-R IND 1'34.583 3.909 0.119 25 169,185 306,8
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 20, 2023 8:27:39 GMT
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Post by neilf on Feb 20, 2023 8:53:34 GMT
Good start by Gardner! I would like to see him make a positive mark in 2023, as by all accounts he was treated very by KTM in MotoGP; you get the impression that they didn't want him there, even though he won the Moto2 championship in 2021.
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Post by mekon on Feb 20, 2023 10:05:50 GMT
Scott Smart won't be able to tuned the R6 cup parameters though. Wonder why he got the boot?
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Post by neilf on Feb 20, 2023 10:44:57 GMT
Scott Smart won't be able to tuned the R6 cup parameters though. Wonder why he got the boot? Didn't I read somewhere that he had lost another family member at that Scott's mental health has declined recently? Maybe he stepped aside? |
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Post by Diego the toe clipper on Feb 20, 2023 15:43:06 GMT
Looks like Redding hasn't yet told Saint Gerloff how shite the BMW is.
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Post by Eddie The Bastard on Feb 20, 2023 18:08:05 GMT
Yay action resumes and it is at Phillip fucking Island. Perfect.
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Post by mekon on Feb 21, 2023 7:32:58 GMT
Looks like Redding hasn't yet told Saint Gerloff how shite the BMW is. He got the memo last night. He's bottom BMW now. Bautista at top. Rea making 'predictable' comments already. Rinaldi seems fairly quick but then again he ocassionally was last year. |
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 22, 2023 14:21:45 GMT
MacKenzie didnt set a lap in either day?
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Post by mekon on Feb 22, 2023 16:33:02 GMT
Odd. Just done the team launch.
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 23, 2023 10:40:06 GMT
On the rev limit for Kawasaki issue, where they had "500 rpm removed" when in fact they hadn't, they have a new official homologated model for this year. www.worldsbk.com/en/news/2023/UNVEILED%20homologated%20motorcycles%20for%20WorldSBK%20classes%20in%202023?fbclid=IwAR0mxkmRXRxkvBDjq6PzMTsTRK8UsWZfRqn1IM2EHY4aXD7aZFGKug9CARc2023 Rules and regs www.fim-moto.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/2023/2023_SBK_SS_SS300_World_Championships_Regulations.pdf?t=1677147431Kawasaki have a new engine, so according to the rules in 2.4.2.1(g) there are some sums to do. g) For a new engine the initial rev limit will be either:a) The lower of:i) The RPM after the peak power at which the engine produces90% of the peak power figure, + 3% (if applicable)ii) The RPM of the peak power + 700 rpmORb) The manufacturer may choose to continue with the current RPMby balancing (if the new engine maintains the same number ofcylinders).From the table in 2.4.2.3, I see Kawasaki chose to continue with 14,600, the same as before all the recent fuss which started in 2021. That wont stop all the Kawasaki fanboys saying we want our 500rpm back though. Forget the combined weight limit rule, this is the problem; I think its wrong for Ducati to have a road bike of 1100cc, power of 215.5hp at 13,000 rpm but the race bike has a special engine of 998cc with tuned engine and resulting rev limit of 16,100. Its Ducatis choice to have a 1100cc road bike (isnt 1000cc large enough?). Road bike rpm 13,000 +3% should be their limit, 13,700. Edit - Actually, it should be less than that, as revs at 90% of peak +3% is the lower. |
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Post by mekon on Feb 23, 2023 11:02:05 GMT
I'm guessing the problem with road going bikes is now also emissions nonsense. At least with prototypes they only have to play to the series rules. With WSB it's sort of depending if the manufacturer want's to make a load of boutique specials? Is the limit still 2000 machines? There would have been a time 2000 specials would fly off the shelves but maybe not so much anymore?
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Post by neilf on Feb 23, 2023 12:09:29 GMT
On the rev limit for Kawasaki issue, where they had "500 rpm removed" when in fact they hadn't, they have a new official homologated model for this year. www.worldsbk.com/en/news/2023/UNVEILED%20homologated%20motorcycles%20for%20WorldSBK%20classes%20in%202023?fbclid=IwAR0mxkmRXRxkvBDjq6PzMTsTRK8UsWZfRqn1IM2EHY4aXD7aZFGKug9CARc2023 Rules and regs www.fim-moto.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/2023/2023_SBK_SS_SS300_World_Championships_Regulations.pdf?t=1677147431Kawasaki have a new engine, so according to the rules in 2.4.2.1(g) there are some sums to do. g) For a new engine the initial rev limit will be either:a) The lower of:i) The RPM after the peak power at which the engine produces90% of the peak power figure, + 3% (if applicable)ii) The RPM of the peak power + 700 rpmORb) The manufacturer may choose to continue with the current RPMby balancing (if the new engine maintains the same number ofcylinders).From the table in 2.4.2.3, I see Kawasaki chose to continue with 14,600, the same as before all the recent fuss which started in 2021. That wont stop all the Kawasaki fanboys saying we want our 500rpm back though. Forget the combined weight limit rule, this is the problem; I think its wrong for Ducati to have a road bike of 1100cc, power of 215.5hp at 13,000 rpm but the race bike has a special engine of 998cc with tuned engine and resulting rev limit of 16,100. Its Ducatis choice to have a 1100cc road bike (isnt 1000cc large enough?). Road bike rpm 13,000 +3% should be their limit, 13,700.Edit - Actually, it should be less than that, as revs at 90% of peak +3% is the lower. Did that refer to the old twin rules? The V4 is a 1000cc. |
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Post by philthewindsurfer on Feb 23, 2023 12:57:20 GMT
The road bike is 1103cc, race bike 998cc, those are the 2023 rules linked to. The machine balancing of performance using concession points I didnt bother to look into. Fucking pages of it. |
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